NOC Matrix 12 NOC - Game Over, Mafia Wins

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WE DID IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

fort kill is actually dumb from any of you being scum. Regardless of whatever "grand plan" you had, killing one of hawkie or yeti was like 100% the move, even if the other one is scum.

flame flame, bitch bitch, wah wah

i'm in a terrible mood but i'm making the best of it with lots of video games today
 
anyway about this game

something tells me lw is actually the shadier of the two between him and knights but it was texas's last will and testament that we lynch knights first so, there's that.

i do take the fort kill as scum!hawkie indicative because the smartest move for mafia at this point is to try and get rid of the people empoof is more likely to side with at LYLO than The Scum and i have a hard time seeing ANYONE beating out hawkie at LYLO

hawkie has had the jumpiest votes i think ruling nobody out, really, which i think makes him the most likely to be scum in that he's trying to see who he can lynch on any given day. it really doesn't matter to him who gets to LYLO against him, as long as he keeps the firm TR from pretty much the rest of the game. nobody has him anywhere near PoE.

thus, objectively, hawkie was a better n7 kill than fort.

of course now having tinfoiled all this im gonna be the n8 kill to make it hawkie v lw/knights and this is gonna be playing on empoof's mind kekkkkkkkkkkk

but is that what i really wanted all along

was to die

in this game
if you think last day was scum!me then you literally need a new brain
 

LightWolf

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Firstly, whatever reason Fort died for, discussing it is pointless, at least as far as determining who we vote off of it. Either scum did it for themselves, or whoever did it did it to implicate someone doing it for themselves. The next kill will be far more important, not because of reasonings, but that it narrows scum down to 2 or 3 people.

why would i even bother lol like if im scum why do i try and go on you here? i have fine enough odds against either of lw or knights that gets to lylo and i can just nightkill you, which i should have done the night before

you are the only person who fort dying first makes sense for
Technically, if Empoof's BPV is pierced, if you got Hawkie lynched and then killed Empoof, chances are me and Knights never agree to lynch you, guaranteeing your victory. This is really only relevant info if Empoof does indeed die tonight and Yeti is still alive, but it's farfetched and irrelevant right now.

My views have not changed, therefore Vote Knights

I dislike Hawkie's Texas push, but his interactions through the game just scream townie. Yeti is also while being hard to read, full of small things that make her look town. I have yet to see anything that could change my mind, and I have no interest in not just getting Knights over and done with. Only other options I see is my lynch, because lynching outside the two of us, likely leads to a lylo decision between the two of us, unless Yeti or Hawkie are scum, we lynch the wrong one, and they have to now kill one of us. Alternatively same situation, one of us is scum, and they decide to be cheeky and kill the other, hoping it will sway Empoof in their favour, rather than going for a 50%. Point is, lynching Hawkie or Yeti today is idiotic. It will resolve it self tonight no question if they somehow hide the scum between them. It's still Knights though, but this is the best way to convey to stop entertaining a lynch outside of us two.
 
anyway about this game

something tells me lw is actually the shadier of the two between him and knights but it was texas's last will and testament that we lynch knights first so, there's that.

i do take the fort kill as scum!hawkie indicative because the smartest move for mafia at this point is to try and get rid of the people empoof is more likely to side with at LYLO than The Scum and i have a hard time seeing ANYONE beating out hawkie at LYLO

hawkie has had the jumpiest votes i think ruling nobody out, really, which i think makes him the most likely to be scum in that he's trying to see who he can lynch on any given day. it really doesn't matter to him who gets to LYLO against him, as long as he keeps the firm TR from pretty much the rest of the game. nobody has him anywhere near PoE.

thus, objectively, hawkie was a better n7 kill than fort.

of course now having tinfoiled all this im gonna be the n8 kill to make it hawkie v lw/knights and this is gonna be playing on empoof's mind kekkkkkkkkkkk

but is that what i really wanted all along

was to die

in this game
wait

excuse me???? "hawkie has had the jumpiest votes i think ruling nobody out, really, which i think makes him the most likely to be scum in that he's trying to see who he can lynch on any given day. it really doesn't matter to him who gets to LYLO against him, as long as he keeps the firm TR from pretty much the rest of the game. nobody has him anywhere near PoE."

who is my firm tr because i'm 100% sure i don't have one??????????????? This is actual all fabricated horseshit and now i get how texas felt sorry bb i was sooo sure but i could've handled that better
 
I'm thinking on the likelihood of Hawkie over Yeti or vice versa. I don't think scum!Lightwolf takes away an opportunity to push a player he said he would look into post-mislynch.

I also think scum could be fucked if both Empoof and I go to F3.

As for Fort, yesterday I figured that I would be changing my avvie in postgame.

LightWolf Update your whatnext please? Tex and Fort are both gone and the question is still valid.
 
So like

How insane am I to really believe knights + hawkie are always town

Like I've read the cases, I'm not ignorant of the arguments. I'll read through texas's again because he's flipped town but yeah

I think he just has a slight tone problem because smogon
 
It sucks because if this was a solitaire game where the outcome only affected me I'd just turbo lw into yeti and be okay with a knights lose but a ton of people suspect knights so idk
 
I'm just super shook because my last game I literally called all the mafia town except for like 2 people in an 8-9 person team

So I can't tell if I should be trusting myself or not
 
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