Crunch over Toxic seems reasonable, but your spread is flawed. When Beast Boost will activate, only your Def stat will be boosted. Either you opt for an Impish Nature (making Beast Boost raising only your Atk stat) or you stick with the spread I suggested, which, imo, is much more beneficial since a small drop in Atk and Def, the letter of which is more or less compensated by a small HP investment, won't affect much of its offensive capabilities and with said spread, its Atk, Def and SpDef will increase after it KOes an opponent.
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Guzzlord Discussion
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Has this been confirmed anywhere?
Nope, but looking at Beast Boost's description: "The Pokémon boosts its most proficient stat each time it knocks out a Pokémon", I can hope only hope it actually raises those three stats if they're of equal value and the highest stats of Guzzlord (excluding HP, of course).
I didn't say that it had to beat everything, don't lecture me. I just think it's counter productive to have to switch out and lose momentum and any Beast Boosts you may have gained every time Clefable switches in with impunity.
And that calc doesn't disprove my point. Doing 40% minimum to Clefable on the switch is better than doing literally nothing to it with Toxic and Dragon Tail, essentially forcing it to use Soft-boiled because Moonblast doesn't OHKO this spread.
And if Guzzlord already has the +1 from Beast Boost it can actually beat a weakened Clefable: +1 0- Atk Guzzlord Heavy Slam vs. 252 HP / 172 Def Clefable: 236-278 (59.8 - 70.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
While Moonblast is only doing this much back: 0 SpA Clefable Moonblast vs. +1 72 HP / 180+ SpD Guzzlord: 304-360 (48.6 - 57.6%) -- 92.2% chance to 2HKO
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I have nothing to say about this other than aesthetically, it looks like a mutated Garbador.
Okay, I thought it was speculation. I was just looking around for confirmation and couldn't find it. Is nobody able to test this yet?
Tory
Banned deucer.
I am so sorry, I wrote Bold over Impish Nature by mistake. You notice that I didn't do that on purpose. :)
Oh, well that explains a lot. I guess it could work then. In all cases, Guzzlord's optimal set will certainly be adapted to face current and new offensive threats (the Tapus rising, Gengar probably falling, Talonflame falling, etc.).
Well, crap. That means my set mentioned in the previous page becomes thrash and Tory vs. Raven VI T's would certainly be much more closer to its optimal set (if that's not the most optimal already).
Apparently Beast Boost has a priority system in case of a tie, so it would always be Attack that gets boosted.
EDIT: Ya know, maybe i should pay attention when these things have more than one pages. >_<
EDIT 2: How heavy is it? If it can survive a hit from a fairy, maybe Heavy Slam could take it out? idk how usable this would be though... At least it has an attack stat that Blissey wishes she had.
That HP stat seems pointless with those defenses. Still waiting for Gamefreak to make a proper wall. Gamefreak should've gave this way less special attack and speed while beefing up the defense and special defense.
Stockpile+Rest seems like the best option for it. Walls things like Crawdaunt, Zard-Y, Mega Gyarados, Volcanion, Chandelure, all electric types that don't have focus blast, Entei and Mega Houndoom based on typing alone. Usable, but could have obviously have been better.
Stockpile+Rest seems like the best option for it. Walls things like Crawdaunt, Zard-Y, Mega Gyarados, Volcanion, Chandelure, all electric types that don't have focus blast, Entei and Mega Houndoom based on typing alone. Usable, but could have obviously have been better.
Yeah its a waste to put evs in HP anyway since its the highest in the game besides blissey and Chansey. Might as well put it in either both defenses or a offensive stat since its offensives aren't very remarkable.
I almost got an heartattack seeing the HP. Guess Zygarde-Perfect isn't the only underwhelming one.
His box icon is the only one we have for that right now, based on it though it's a long, clubbed ankylosaur type tail.
But is Stockpile worth using? That would correct its bad defenses but on the other hand, that leaves only 2 moves remaining. Guzzlord would like to have Dragon Tail and Toxic to not be complete setup fodder, but without Sleep Talk, it is just too passive.
Hmm.Remind me,isn't Z-Stockpile a 100% heal,plus the stat boost?
Bit too relying on luck,and the opponent's mistakes,but have the first/second one be the Z-Stockpile,so you're back to full health with okay defence.Add in Crunch-Toxic-Dragon Tail and you get something...okay I guess?
Ah,should've read the thread.Silly me. xD
Does Beast Boost affect only base or boosted stats?Assuming it somehow manages to kill anything,the distinction might help it's offence over the boosted defences.
Bit too relying on luck,and the opponent's mistakes,but have the first/second one be the Z-Stockpile,so you're back to full health with okay defence.Add in Crunch-Toxic-Dragon Tail and you get something...okay I guess?
Ah,should've read the thread.Silly me. xD
Does Beast Boost affect only base or boosted stats?Assuming it somehow manages to kill anything,the distinction might help it's offence over the boosted defences.
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Actual stat, not base stat.
Don't say that! You'll make Guzzlord sad
http://i.imgur.com/KGhPN1B.gifv
I find its stats to be intriguing. It's like what would happen if you left a Blissey and Hydreigon at the Day Care together. I think it will do a decent job in competitive, especially VGC seeing as it has Brutal Swing, Snarl, Bulldoze, Earthquake, Rock Slide, and Sludge Wave for spread coverage (with Snarl and Bulldoze also supplying utility), and it has Wide Guard.
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