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because it's badWhats the reasoning for blocking an aloha-raichu analyisis atm?
because it's badWhats the reasoning for blocking an aloha-raichu analyisis atm?
It requires too much setting up with Pelipper and Tapu Koko, to the point where you would do just as well with only Tapu Koko as your Thunder Spammer. Without Electric Terrain or Rain, Alolan Raichu simply isn't good.Whats the reasoning for blocking an aloha-raichu analyisis atm?
Everything here also applies to Scarf Nihilego, and it is actually even better at killing Charizard and Salamence thanks to Power Gem. I'd say that Gengar is an ideal choice if you want a scarfer that fills a similar role as Nihilego while outspeeding some obscure threats at +1 or with a Scarf, the most relevant of which is probably Kartana (no one uses scarf keldeo), and having a generally better matchup against stall teams thanks to Trick, while Nihilego has the potential to sweep lategame against more offensive teams thanks to Beast Boost. I haven't used Scarf Gengar so I'm probably underestimating it (Ghost coverage is really good, and i guess Focus Blast lets it revenge Mega Gyarados/Steel types effectively) but I can't help but feel Nihilego outclasses it in a lot of ways.I'd like to make an argument for Scarf Gengar to be a set. With its 110 base speed and a Choice Scarf equipped it can easily revenge kill +1 boosted mons such as Mega Charizard X, Salamence, etc. It also outspeeds a majority of common scarfers seen such as Tapu Lele, outspeeds Tapu Koko, and can OHKO with STAB Sludge Wave.
You're forgetting about Alolan Muk which is a dedicated Pursuit user that will probably continue to increase in popularity. It also is really effective against Gengar, whether it is Scarf or not.Pursuit users being rather rare help this too since the only Pokemon that has been running Pursuit constantly is Tyranitar. Scizor needs a dedicated set for it that fights with its Swords Dance sets, Bisharp has often opted against running Pursuit at this time, Weavile has often considered superior options such as Poison Jab or Swords Dance.
This line from the Tapu Fini page should probably read:Also keep in mind that Tapu Fini's teammates can't status opposing Pokemon affected by Misty Terrain.
You can status flying types like Landorus-T or Hydreigon.Also keep in mind that Tapu Fini's teammates can't status opposing grounded Pokemon affected by Misty Terrain.
The problem is that stealth rocks will basically make it impossible to be at full health, and outside of priority brave bird and roost Talonflame is pretty "meh".Call me stupid but I think that Gale Wings nerf isn't such a big nerv as most people think. You can outspeed most pokemon without Prio Gale Wings. It now has problems with scarfers and maybe Extreme speed. I believe that the loose Prio Roost is what hurts it a lot, but it is still very flexable to use. Sorry if I wasted your time but I think that people overdramatize the nerf a bit like they do with Gengar.
Call me stupid but I think that Gale Wings nerf isn't such a big nerv as most people think. You can outspeed most pokemon without Prio Gale Wings. It now has problems with scarfers and maybe Extreme speed. I believe that the loose Prio Roost is what hurts it a lot, but it is still very flexable to use. Sorry if I wasted your time but I think that people overdramatize the nerf a bit like they do with Gengar.
I agree its redundant. But every sentence is about compromise.Only grounded Pokemon are affected by Misty Terrain, so adding "grounded" there would be redundant. It should be clear the way it is.
The question is: Would you run Gale Wings after the nerf or Flame Body? Are Natural Gift + Acrobatics Sets trash too?Talonflame can't even switch in to any attack, otherwise it would lose Gale Wings.
Actually, the very existence of Stealth Rock kills Talonflame's credibility because it makes Talonflame completely useless.
The Gale Wings nerf has made Talonflame comparable to "Flame Orb Guts Swellow Facade" levels of usability. Lets leave it to the NU specialists to figure out whether Swellow or Talonflame is more usable... I mean seriously, at least Guts Swellow + STAB Quick Attack is a real form of reliable priority.The question is: Would you run Gale Wings after the nerf or Flame Body? Are Natural Gift + Acrobatics Sets trash too?
I've been trying Talonflame in OU past few days and I must say it's a big nerf. So much of a nerf I rather have Flame body over Gale Wings. Talon needs the boost of SD to be somewhat of a threat. You would need to be able to get it in AND get a boost without taking damage, If that doesn't happen, Gale Wings is useless. Brave Bird and Flare Blitz being it's main attacks hurt it even more because they have recoil.Call me stupid but I think that Gale Wings nerf isn't such a big nerv as most people think. You can outspeed most pokemon without Prio Gale Wings. It now has problems with scarfers and maybe Extreme speed. I believe that the loose Prio Roost is what hurts it a lot, but it is still very flexable to use. Sorry if I wasted your time but I think that people overdramatize the nerf a bit like they do with Gengar.
I'm sure the QC staff appreciate your enthusiasm to write analyses but there's a few things I want to point out
Currently, there aren't any Pokemon up for reservation, so you have to wait until there are. If you leave the reservation index on watch you can see when new analyses are available to write and write ups of the current bullet pointed analyses should be available to write in a couple months for you as well. I hope I helped!
- The on-site Zygarde analysis only has a set for Zygarde 10% form, and there is an analysis for Zygarde 50% being worked on right now with a Coil and DD set that are currently being written up.
- Offensive Heatran with Leftovers/Air Balloon is a small change of the current moveset and is actually mentioned in the set details of the analysis if you read it closely, and Rest+Sleep Talk compounds Heatran's pre existing 4MSS, not to mention that it makes it significantly more passive when there are frankly just better choices to place onto stall teams that check the same threats it does.
- Bulky Tyranitar is really bad because you are frankly wasting its potential as either an insane offensive wallbreaker or a pretty consistent Pursuit Trapper, and there's several different kinds of pokemon that can perform the role of bulky Stealth Rock user better than Tyranitar, not to mention that mold breaker excadrill is so good rn that it doesn't need sand support+sand rush to function, and the loss of Talonflame of the tier means it isn't as valuable defensively.
- Lastly, Moxiemence is pretty bad as a steamroll killing Pokemon or whatever you want to call it as several UBs have Choice Scarf sets that can acomplish the same thing that moxiemence does but better, and Shift Gear Magearna can do a great job at it as well.
This reply is mad late but I haven't been very active the past month. I mentioned 'notable kos' simply because the investment was in an attacking stat, thus this aspect of the conversation about ninetails concerns damage output and, consequently, KOs. It's exactly your thought here:Max HP is rlly bad. While the KOs thing seems insiginificant on paper, it is really noticable when your actually using it because your Moonblasts do fuck all to the neutral targets you use them on, which is really, really horrible in general. Also, there are a few semi-notable things that it misses out on (not that "notable KOs" is a particularly good metric when looking at STAB moves--hint, Alolan Ninetales is clicking them a lot more than you think) include:
Like, there is probably more in addition to this too, but the point is that even if I ignore the fact that notable KOs is a bad argument for something like Ninetales there is quite a lot it is missing out on by not running max SpA.
- Mega Gyarados Moonblast 2HKO
- Regular Gyarados Freeze Dry OHKO
- SpD Mantine Freeze Dry 2HKO
- Offensive Garchomp Freeze Dry OHKO
- Defensive Lando-T Freeze Dry OHKO
- PhysDef Toxapex Freeze Dry 2HKO after SR
- Offensive Tyranitar 2HKO after SR
- Mixed Def Hippo Freeze Dry 2HKO chance after SR
- PhysDef Hippo Freeze Dry 2HKO
- PhysDef Suicune Freeze Dry 2HKO chance after SR
- Bisharp Moonblast 2HKO before SR
- Semi-bulky Bulu variants 2HKO before SR
- Max HP Bulu 2HKO both before and after SR
Also you're plenty bulky with Aurora Veil up even without the HP investment, and you are bulky/fast enough without that setting it up shouldn't be an issue.
Just note: a lot of UU and even RU pokemon have an analysis. For example, a pokemon like Hawluncha will never reach OU / BL status, but it has a unique niche in Swords Dance / Substitute / Sitrus Berry / Unburden / Acrobatics that can be tricky for some teams to deal with. Perhaps a better example would be Choice Scarf Ditto, who I'm sure will see OU usage even if it's a Pokemon that will drop to NU or even PU usage.Hey Smogon Community,
I was wondering if I could write some analyses for the SM OU/BL tier (and possibly edit some current entries for a few OU/BL Pokemon I noticed had some missing information; for example for Zygarde and Heatran's entries just from thinking off the top of my head).
It has been said multiple times now, but Misty Surge doesn't affect non-grounded mons (Flying-types, Levitators, those with Air Balloon iirc, etc.) and is crucial against a Tapu Bulu switch-in as the latter will change the Misty Terrain into a Grassy Terrain, leaving it vulnerable to Scald burns.Hi I would just like to say, running scald on tapu fini (as the suggested sets say) is pointless in comparison to hydro pump - tapu finis terrain negates any statuses.
Thanks for replying!It has been said multiple times now, but Misty Surge doesn't affect non-grounded mons (Flying-types, Levitators, those with Air Balloon iirc, etc.) and is crucial against a Tapu Bulu switch-in as the latter will change the Misty Terrain into a Grassy Terrain, leaving it vulnerable to Scald burns.
I won't go deeper into the details, but it has been shown and proven at multiple occasions that Scald, despite its ability, is still Tapu Fini's Water-type STAB move of choice (in most, if not all, cases anyway).
If so I also have an interesting mega beedrill - could be incredibly viable, this in my opinion is due to the buffing of fell stinger, and the fact that you no longer "have" to run protect (mega buff) could mean we might be seeing mega beedrill revenge killing with a 50 BP adaptability boosted fell stinger, boosting itself to +3 atk. Might be missing something but this could be a very lethal sweeping strategy..Are unreleased megas getting an analysis? If so, I think mega swampert definitely deserves one with rain getting a much more reliable setter in pelipper and the mega evolution speed buff. Sorry if this is the wrong place to ask.