OP adapted from this thread
Amazing artwork by Ssensenh (Thank you again!)
Welcome to SS PU Effective, Creative, and Underrated Sets! This thread is for posting any innovative movesets you might have, as well as any updates to old standards that have fallen out of favor in the current PU metagame. If someone helped you create a new moveset, please credit them in your post. Additionally, please always include a replay of your set in action, along with a short description! Not only will doing so serve to strengthen your case that your set is effective and should be used by others, but this will also inform newer players how to play with and build around your creative set. Any set posted here lacking either a description and/or a replay will not be added to the archive and may be deleted.
Some example posts from previous gens:
Murkrow @ Flyinium Z
Ability: Prankster
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpA / 252 Spe
Naive Nature
- Mirror Move
- Brave Bird
- Sucker Punch
- Protect
Z-Mirror Move is great, since in tandem with Prankster you get to use the last move the opposing Pokemon used against you as a Z-move and before you perform this Z-move you get +2 in Attack. This allows Murkrow to act as an emergency revenge killer that can then countersweep/break with boosted Brave Birds and Sucker Punches. Protect is an innovation of mine: Murkrow's fourth moveslot is up for grabs since it lacks good coverage moves and something like Pursuit is not that useful on this Pokemon, and Protect can have its use in certain matchups. For one, it allows for Murkrow to prevent Kangaskhan from revenge killing it by blocking Fake Out and outspeeding and killing afterwards with +2 Brave Bird. It also makes sure that Primeape can only revenge kill with the unreliable Stone Edge, since protecting on the Close Combat, then copying with Mirror Move allows you to OHKO Primeape when you're at +2. Furthermore, if it comes in on a Pokemon that didn't use an attack in the previous turn, it can bait that Pokemon into using an attack it can copy by using Protect then following it up with Z-Mirror Move. Do keep in mind Mirror Move fails if the opponent switches out, however you still get the +2 from Z-Mirror Move regardless of whether you successfully copy an attack or not.
Finally, a replay: http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen7pu-654074715
This replay nicely shows how Protect can be very clutch. Pinsir used Z-Me First in the previous turn in order to kill my Mesprit and get +2 in Speed, allowing it to outspeed my entire team while having enough bulk to tank any priority I could throw at it. Without Protect, I'd probably have to rely on a Sucker Punch crit or a Stone Edge miss on my Oricorio (Z-moves can't be copied by Mirror Move), but thanks to Protect, I could bait Pinsir into using Stone Edge so I could copy it with Z-Mirror Move and revenge kill Pinsir. I recommend you try this Pokemon out since it's pretty underrated and put Protect on it, it certainly has its use.
If you post a bad gimmick here, your post will be deleted. Users who violate this rule may also be infracted.
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GEN 7 PU UNDERRATED SETS THREAD: Iteration 1 (Akir)
GEN 6 PU UNDERRATED SETS THREAD: Iteration 1 (Anty) / Iteration 2 (Dundies) / Iteration 3 (Akir)
Amazing artwork by Ssensenh (Thank you again!)
Some example posts from previous gens:
Murkrow @ Flyinium Z
Ability: Prankster
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpA / 252 Spe
Naive Nature
- Mirror Move
- Brave Bird
- Sucker Punch
- Protect
Z-Mirror Move is great, since in tandem with Prankster you get to use the last move the opposing Pokemon used against you as a Z-move and before you perform this Z-move you get +2 in Attack. This allows Murkrow to act as an emergency revenge killer that can then countersweep/break with boosted Brave Birds and Sucker Punches. Protect is an innovation of mine: Murkrow's fourth moveslot is up for grabs since it lacks good coverage moves and something like Pursuit is not that useful on this Pokemon, and Protect can have its use in certain matchups. For one, it allows for Murkrow to prevent Kangaskhan from revenge killing it by blocking Fake Out and outspeeding and killing afterwards with +2 Brave Bird. It also makes sure that Primeape can only revenge kill with the unreliable Stone Edge, since protecting on the Close Combat, then copying with Mirror Move allows you to OHKO Primeape when you're at +2. Furthermore, if it comes in on a Pokemon that didn't use an attack in the previous turn, it can bait that Pokemon into using an attack it can copy by using Protect then following it up with Z-Mirror Move. Do keep in mind Mirror Move fails if the opponent switches out, however you still get the +2 from Z-Mirror Move regardless of whether you successfully copy an attack or not.
Finally, a replay: http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen7pu-654074715
This replay nicely shows how Protect can be very clutch. Pinsir used Z-Me First in the previous turn in order to kill my Mesprit and get +2 in Speed, allowing it to outspeed my entire team while having enough bulk to tank any priority I could throw at it. Without Protect, I'd probably have to rely on a Sucker Punch crit or a Stone Edge miss on my Oricorio (Z-moves can't be copied by Mirror Move), but thanks to Protect, I could bait Pinsir into using Stone Edge so I could copy it with Z-Mirror Move and revenge kill Pinsir. I recommend you try this Pokemon out since it's pretty underrated and put Protect on it, it certainly has its use.
You guys probably saw this in my match against Dodmen for PU seasonals (if not, here it is: http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/pu-285258422), but I brought something new that I think has a place in our current meta, in which wallbreakers running from base ~80 to base ~100 Spe are exceptionally effective (for example, Stoutland and Dodrio). While its offensive coverage isn't nearly as good as these two, Leafeon is something that I find works well with a Choice Band given its nice physical bulk, access to Knock Off, and ability to grab momentum via Baton Pass:
Leafeon @ Choice Band
Ability: Leaf Guard
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Leaf Blade
- Bullet Seed
- Knock Off
- Baton Pass / X-Scissor / Double-Edge / Iron Tail
You may be wondering why it's running Leaf Guard - that's because Bullet Seed is illegal with Chlorophyll. But, Bullet Seed is one of the primary draws of this set, as it lets you break past HO leads with Sturdy or Sash, while handling threats using Substitute that don't resist Leafeon's STAB Bullet Seed. Rampardos and Golem are very common HO leads (currently present in our sample teams), while Lead Relicanth is used on Rain to set up both Rain Dance / SR. These 3 are all OHKOed by CB STAB Bullet Seed through Sash / Sturdy, even if you get a paltry 2 hit out of the deal. Bullet Seed also ruins Substitute users and hits them hard (save for Substitute users that resist Bullet Seed, like Articuno).
252+ Atk Choice Band Leafeon Bullet Seed (2 hits) vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Golem: 392-464 (130.2 - 154.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO
Lead
252+ Atk Choice Band Leafeon Bullet Seed (2 hits) vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Rampardos: 364-432 (108.6 - 128.9%) -- guaranteed OHKO
Rain Lead
252+ Atk Choice Band Leafeon Bullet Seed (2 hits) vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Relicanth: 392-464 (114.9 - 136%) -- guaranteed OHKO
Outside of breaking most HO leads, CB Leafeon finds a lot of utility against Balanced or Bulky Offense teams looking to find a solid switch-in for Leafeon. I used this in tandem with a core that is able to handle threats to Leafeon, most notably Sap Sipper Zebstrika and Jumpluff. Coupled with Defog and a Slow-Turn from Vullaby (which is a hard counter to Jumpluff), and paralysis / SR support from Stunfisk (which counters Zebstrika outside of Me First Zeb), I gave Leafeon the support it needed to be effective in the above replay.
Slow U-Turn / Volt Switch / Baton Pass all make it so Leafeon has a free switch-in, at which point it's able to threaten the other team with a powerful Knock Off that can 2HKO specially defensive Roselia / has a chance to OHKO Zebstrika after SR / cripples Tangela switch-ins for Water-types to take advantage of that later on in the battle. Or, if Tangela switches into Leafeon later, X-Scissor can 2HKO after its Eviolite is gone. If you forgo Baton Pass in favor for more coverage, Double-Edge can also OHKO Jumpluff after SR damage.
252+ Atk Choice Band Leafeon Knock Off (97.5 BP) vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Zebstrika: 226-266 (77.6 - 91.4%) -- 31.3% chance to OHKO after Stealth Rock
252 HP / 128 Def / 128 SpD
252+ Atk Choice Band Leafeon Knock Off (97.5 BP) vs. 252 HP / 128 Def Eviolite Roselia: 154-182 (50.6 - 59.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock
252+ Atk Choice Band Leafeon Knock Off vs. 252 HP / 128 Def Roselia: 155-183 (50.9 - 60.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock
248 HP / 80 Def / 180 SpD
252+ Atk Choice Band Leafeon Knock Off (97.5 BP) vs. 248 HP / 80 Def Eviolite Roselia: 167-197 (55.1 - 65%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock
252+ Atk Choice Band Leafeon Knock Off vs. 248 HP / 80 Def Roselia: 168-198 (55.4 - 65.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock
252+ Atk Choice Band Leafeon Double-Edge vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Jumpluff: 255-300 (87.6 - 103%) -- guaranteed OHKO after Stealth Rock
252+ Atk Choice Band Leafeon Iron Tail vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Jumpluff: 213-251 (73.1 - 86.2%) -- 81.3% chance to OHKO after Stealth Rock
252+ Atk Choice Band Leafeon X-Scissor vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Jumpluff: 170-201 (58.4 - 69%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock
252+ Atk Choice Band Leafeon Knock Off vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Jumpluff: 138-163 (47.4 - 56%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock
252+ Atk Choice Band Leafeon Knock Off (97.5 BP) vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Eviolite Tangela: 68-81 (20.3 - 24.2%) -- 74.6% chance to 4HKO after Stealth Rock
252+ Atk Choice Band Leafeon X-Scissor vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Tangela: 168-198 (50.2 - 59.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock
:Gourgeist-Super:
252+ Atk Choice Band Leafeon Knock Off (97.5 BP) vs. 248 HP / 252+ Def Gourgeist-Super: 194-230 (52 - 61.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock and Leftovers recovery
252+ Atk Choice Band Leafeon Knock Off vs. 248 HP / 252+ Def Gourgeist-Super: 132-156 (35.3 - 41.8%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Stealth Rock
And finally, Leaf Blade is here as a powerful STAB move (with a high crit ratio to boot), so that Leafeon can wallbreak for its teammates. Defensive Stunfisk is OHKOed after SR, which is an especially notable calc and lets partners such as Dodrio or Zebstrika ruin the other team once Stunfisk is gone.
252+ Atk Choice Band Leafeon Leaf Blade vs. 248 HP / 252+ Def Stunfisk: 348-410 (82.6 - 97.3%) -- 25% chance to OHKO after Stealth Rock
252+ Atk Choice Band Leafeon Knock Off (97.5 BP) vs. 252 HP / 240 Def Eviolite Misdreavus: 226-268 (69.7 - 82.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
Physically defensive
252+ Atk Choice Band Leafeon Leaf Blade vs. 248 HP / 252+ Def Relicanth: 516-612 (128 - 151.8%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252+ Atk Choice Band Leafeon Bullet Seed (3 hits) vs. 248 HP / 252+ Def Relicanth: 432-516 (107.1 - 128%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252+ Atk Choice Band Leafeon Leaf Blade vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Lickilicky: 225-265 (53 - 62.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
252+ Atk Choice Band Leafeon Leaf Blade vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Eviolite Clefairy: 159-187 (46.2 - 54.3%) -- 54.3% chance to 2HKO
In addition to Leafeon, there are other Pokemon sitting in this same general Speed tier (base 80 - base 100) that also do well with Choice items. Basculin is another example that I've found effective with Aqua Tail / CB / Adamant for that extra bit of power, and found the same level of success with it when paired with the necessary support.
Leafeon @ Choice Band
Ability: Leaf Guard
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Leaf Blade
- Bullet Seed
- Knock Off
- Baton Pass / X-Scissor / Double-Edge / Iron Tail
You may be wondering why it's running Leaf Guard - that's because Bullet Seed is illegal with Chlorophyll. But, Bullet Seed is one of the primary draws of this set, as it lets you break past HO leads with Sturdy or Sash, while handling threats using Substitute that don't resist Leafeon's STAB Bullet Seed. Rampardos and Golem are very common HO leads (currently present in our sample teams), while Lead Relicanth is used on Rain to set up both Rain Dance / SR. These 3 are all OHKOed by CB STAB Bullet Seed through Sash / Sturdy, even if you get a paltry 2 hit out of the deal. Bullet Seed also ruins Substitute users and hits them hard (save for Substitute users that resist Bullet Seed, like Articuno).
252+ Atk Choice Band Leafeon Bullet Seed (2 hits) vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Golem: 392-464 (130.2 - 154.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO
Lead
252+ Atk Choice Band Leafeon Bullet Seed (2 hits) vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Rampardos: 364-432 (108.6 - 128.9%) -- guaranteed OHKO
Rain Lead
252+ Atk Choice Band Leafeon Bullet Seed (2 hits) vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Relicanth: 392-464 (114.9 - 136%) -- guaranteed OHKO
Outside of breaking most HO leads, CB Leafeon finds a lot of utility against Balanced or Bulky Offense teams looking to find a solid switch-in for Leafeon. I used this in tandem with a core that is able to handle threats to Leafeon, most notably Sap Sipper Zebstrika and Jumpluff. Coupled with Defog and a Slow-Turn from Vullaby (which is a hard counter to Jumpluff), and paralysis / SR support from Stunfisk (which counters Zebstrika outside of Me First Zeb), I gave Leafeon the support it needed to be effective in the above replay.
Slow U-Turn / Volt Switch / Baton Pass all make it so Leafeon has a free switch-in, at which point it's able to threaten the other team with a powerful Knock Off that can 2HKO specially defensive Roselia / has a chance to OHKO Zebstrika after SR / cripples Tangela switch-ins for Water-types to take advantage of that later on in the battle. Or, if Tangela switches into Leafeon later, X-Scissor can 2HKO after its Eviolite is gone. If you forgo Baton Pass in favor for more coverage, Double-Edge can also OHKO Jumpluff after SR damage.
252+ Atk Choice Band Leafeon Knock Off (97.5 BP) vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Zebstrika: 226-266 (77.6 - 91.4%) -- 31.3% chance to OHKO after Stealth Rock
252 HP / 128 Def / 128 SpD
252+ Atk Choice Band Leafeon Knock Off (97.5 BP) vs. 252 HP / 128 Def Eviolite Roselia: 154-182 (50.6 - 59.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock
252+ Atk Choice Band Leafeon Knock Off vs. 252 HP / 128 Def Roselia: 155-183 (50.9 - 60.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock
248 HP / 80 Def / 180 SpD
252+ Atk Choice Band Leafeon Knock Off (97.5 BP) vs. 248 HP / 80 Def Eviolite Roselia: 167-197 (55.1 - 65%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock
252+ Atk Choice Band Leafeon Knock Off vs. 248 HP / 80 Def Roselia: 168-198 (55.4 - 65.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock
252+ Atk Choice Band Leafeon Double-Edge vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Jumpluff: 255-300 (87.6 - 103%) -- guaranteed OHKO after Stealth Rock
252+ Atk Choice Band Leafeon Iron Tail vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Jumpluff: 213-251 (73.1 - 86.2%) -- 81.3% chance to OHKO after Stealth Rock
252+ Atk Choice Band Leafeon X-Scissor vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Jumpluff: 170-201 (58.4 - 69%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock
252+ Atk Choice Band Leafeon Knock Off vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Jumpluff: 138-163 (47.4 - 56%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock
252+ Atk Choice Band Leafeon Knock Off (97.5 BP) vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Eviolite Tangela: 68-81 (20.3 - 24.2%) -- 74.6% chance to 4HKO after Stealth Rock
252+ Atk Choice Band Leafeon X-Scissor vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Tangela: 168-198 (50.2 - 59.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock
:Gourgeist-Super:
252+ Atk Choice Band Leafeon Knock Off (97.5 BP) vs. 248 HP / 252+ Def Gourgeist-Super: 194-230 (52 - 61.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock and Leftovers recovery
252+ Atk Choice Band Leafeon Knock Off vs. 248 HP / 252+ Def Gourgeist-Super: 132-156 (35.3 - 41.8%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Stealth Rock
And finally, Leaf Blade is here as a powerful STAB move (with a high crit ratio to boot), so that Leafeon can wallbreak for its teammates. Defensive Stunfisk is OHKOed after SR, which is an especially notable calc and lets partners such as Dodrio or Zebstrika ruin the other team once Stunfisk is gone.
252+ Atk Choice Band Leafeon Leaf Blade vs. 248 HP / 252+ Def Stunfisk: 348-410 (82.6 - 97.3%) -- 25% chance to OHKO after Stealth Rock
252+ Atk Choice Band Leafeon Knock Off (97.5 BP) vs. 252 HP / 240 Def Eviolite Misdreavus: 226-268 (69.7 - 82.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
Physically defensive
252+ Atk Choice Band Leafeon Leaf Blade vs. 248 HP / 252+ Def Relicanth: 516-612 (128 - 151.8%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252+ Atk Choice Band Leafeon Bullet Seed (3 hits) vs. 248 HP / 252+ Def Relicanth: 432-516 (107.1 - 128%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252+ Atk Choice Band Leafeon Leaf Blade vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Lickilicky: 225-265 (53 - 62.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
252+ Atk Choice Band Leafeon Leaf Blade vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Eviolite Clefairy: 159-187 (46.2 - 54.3%) -- 54.3% chance to 2HKO
In addition to Leafeon, there are other Pokemon sitting in this same general Speed tier (base 80 - base 100) that also do well with Choice items. Basculin is another example that I've found effective with Aqua Tail / CB / Adamant for that extra bit of power, and found the same level of success with it when paired with the necessary support.
If you post a bad gimmick here, your post will be deleted. Users who violate this rule may also be infracted.
What constitutes a bad gimmick?
- Using a Pokemon that has no business being used in PU, for the sake of using it in PU.
- Using an obscure move for the sake of hitting an even more obscure check or counter.
- Movesets that are utterly impractical or are done infinitely better by a different, more viable Pokemon.
GEN 7 PU UNDERRATED SETS THREAD: Iteration 1 (Akir)
GEN 6 PU UNDERRATED SETS THREAD: Iteration 1 (Anty) / Iteration 2 (Dundies) / Iteration 3 (Akir)
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set ive been enjoying a lot recently. while its best set without a doubt is modest specs, this utility set is something that i think has a lot of merit. 
lacking hjk or triple axel, specs 
lacking ice beam, offensive 
(more on this later), 
-ghost without dragon claw, and 
.
and 
. as for the spread, 116 speed hits 137 and is 1 points faster than uninvested base 50s like 
, 
, 
. max hp + 124 spdef avoids the 2hko from max spatk 
and 
pair nicely and handle fighting- and fairy-type attacks for you; 
is another great pick for a status absorber, and together, you can overpower ghosts. however, you share a weakness to fighting- and fairy-type.