Other Silly Things You've Seen On The OU Ladder: V2

[13ulbasaur]

Found this amazing Red team player, followed him around for a couple of matches. He doesn't seem to know much about type matchups, in one battle I didn't save he kept on using Charizard-X's Flamethrower (not flare blitz) on a Rotom-Wash and then sent out a Blastoise on it.
http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/ou-135923372
http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/ou-135923601

And from following the Red player, I came across this other gem.
http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/ou-135924883

It took me a while to get the joke. (also Seismic Toss Azu, it doesn't have enough power)
http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/ou-135925142

And finally, Smeargle is the most important part of the team.
http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/ou-135925848

 

[fairykin]

And from following the Red player, I came across this other gem.
http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/ou-135924883

It took me a while to get the joke. (also Seismic Toss Azu, it doesn't have enough power)
http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/ou-135925142

thank you god for L. Suarez the mightyena. this is the best thing i've seen all week.

 

[michaeloche]

And from following the Red player, I came across this other gem.
http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/ou-135924883

It took me a while to get the joke. (also Seismic Toss Azu, it doesn't have enough power)
http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/ou-135925142

He just had to make that joke, didn't he? And you should use Tyrantrum for that anyway.

Random Shit: Biting Into Italian Things That Aren't Food Edition
-A team with Torterra and Luxray.
-Garchomp knowing Aegislash had KS... and using Fire Fang anyway. Because fuck Earthquake, right?
-Defense Curl Chansey.
-Blissey using Toxic on a M-Alakazam that clearly had copied Poison Heal from Gliscor.
-Foul Play Bisharp.
-Repeatedly setting up on an opponent with Haze Crobat.
-Uh... http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/ou-135945441
-Swampert using EQ on Gliscor.
-Fake Out+Destiny Bond Smeargle.
-This is not how you do a mono bug team. My favorite: Quick Attack Speed Boost Yanmega. Gotta go fast: http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/ou-135942011
-When did Ash get a Noivern? Stupid stuff on the other team, too: http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/ou-135943592
-Quick Attack Scizor.
-Uxie.
-M-Mawile trying to Sucker Punch said Uxie... and succeeding. But only once.
-Noctowl. With Double-Edge.
-Sludge Bomb Scolipede.
-Dazzling Gleam Florges. Someone apparently doesn't know about Moonblast.
-Hydro Cannon M-Blastoise.
-Yet another Electivire.
-Having Y-zard use Focus Blast instead of Fire Blast/Flamethrower on said Electivire and getting it killed. By Thunder Punch.
-Lilligant.
-Lilligant without Own Tempo.
-Medicham using High Jump Kick on Aegislash. King's Shield be damned.
-M-Gardevoir with both Hyper Voice and Hyper Beam.
-Jirachi somewhat ironically getting flinched by a Greninja's Dark Pulse.
-Yet another Donphan.

 

[Evilfaic]

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/oususpecttest-135958183
Words cannot describe.

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/ou-135966448
Look at the 2 teams and guess which will win. You'll be pleasantly surprised.

 

[Zekrenzo]

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/ou-135960912

Wonderful

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/ou-135961386

mysticsonicrobot7:im so dumb

 

[ness64]

Nah man, you gotta roll Toxic Orb on Raticate. Facade is a physical move and it still accounts for the .5 reduction in physical damage done, which is caused by Burn.

Guts negates the attack drop from burn, so it's better in the long run.

 

[Rajikaru]

Guts negates the attack drop from burn, so it's better in the long run.

Ohh, didn't realize Raticate had Guts.

 

[Emmy2]

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/ou-136008311

Whirlpool, Aqua Ring, Ice beam, Protect Empoleon
Physical Sceptile
Yanmega and Staraptor on a team with no hazard removal

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/ou-136012647

Hidden Power Ground Jolteon (are you fucking kidding me?)

 

[Anjunadeep]

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/ou-136008311

Whirlpool, Aqua Ring, Ice beam, Protect Empoleon
Physical Sceptile
Yanmega and Staraptor on a team with no hazard removal

SD sceptile is legit.
http://www.smogon.com/bw/pokemon/sceptile

 

[Emmy2]

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/ou-136014731

spoilers

Azumarill used Knock Off!
The opposing Blissey lost 54.1% of its health!
Azumarill knocked off the opposing Blissey's Eviolite!

 

[Ze Diglett]

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/ou-136014241
At first, I thought this guy's team was pretty much legit.

That is, until I found out that he was running FLAMETHROWER BLISSEY.

Hide

I tried convincing him that 90 non-STAB BP coming off of 75 base SpAtk. isn't viable, but he said it was to catch Scizor users off guard (why anyone would switch Scizor into Blissey as their wallbreaker, I have no clue). Even after I demonstrate how Blissey's Flamethrower fails to even catch an OHKO on a mon that's 4x weak to it, he still wouldn't budge. Ah well, noobs will be noobs, even in 1400+ ladder ranking.

 

[Karxrida]

He just had to make that joke, didn't he? And you should use Tyrantrum for that anyway.

Random Shit: Biting Into Italian Things That Aren't Food Edition
-A team with Torterra and Luxray.
-Garchomp knowing Aegislash had KS... and using Fire Fang anyway. Because fuck Earthquake, right?
-Defense Curl Chansey.
-Blissey using Toxic on a M-Alakazam that clearly had copied Poison Heal from Gliscor.
-Foul Play Bisharp.
-Repeatedly setting up on an opponent with Haze Crobat.
-Uh... http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/ou-135945441
-Swampert using EQ on Gliscor.
-Fake Out+Destiny Bond Smeargle.
-This is not how you do a mono bug team. My favorite: Quick Attack Speed Boost Yanmega. Gotta go fast: http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/ou-135942011
-When did Ash get a Noivern? Stupid stuff on the other team, too: http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/ou-135943592
-Quick Attack Scizor.
-Uxie.
-M-Mawile trying to Sucker Punch said Uxie... and succeeding. But only once.
-Noctowl. With Double-Edge.
-Sludge Bomb Scolipede.
-Dazzling Gleam Florges. Someone apparently doesn't know about Moonblast.
-Hydro Cannon M-Blastoise.
-Yet another Electivire.
-Having Y-zard use Focus Blast instead of Fire Blast/Flamethrower on said Electivire and getting it killed. By Thunder Punch.
-Lilligant.
-Lilligant without Own Tempo.
-Medicham using High Jump Kick on Aegislash. King's Shield be damned.
-M-Gardevoir with both Hyper Voice and Hyper Beam.
-Jirachi somewhat ironically getting flinched by a Greninja's Dark Pulse.
-Yet another Donphan.

Quick Attack is somewhat legit on Banded Scizor to revenge Water-, Electric-, and Fire-types.

Also for the love of god don't use Florges in OU. It's blacklisted from the Viability thread FOR A REASON.

EDIT:

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/ou-136014241
At first, I thought this guy's team was pretty much legit.

That is, until I found out that he was running FLAMETHROWER BLISSEY.

Hide

I tried convincing him that 90 non-STAB BP coming off of 75 base SpAtk. isn't viable, but he said it was to catch Scizor users off guard (why anyone would switch Scizor into Blissey as their wallbreaker, I have no clue). Even after I demonstrate how Blissey's Flamethrower fails to even catch an OHKO on a mon that's 4x weak to it, he still wouldn't budge. Ah well, noobs will be noobs, even in 1400+ ladder ranking.

Flamethrower's legit. It deals with Ferrothorn/Scizor, and lets you win against Mega Gengar in Ubers.

 

[Ze Diglett]

Flamethrower's legit. It deals with Ferrothorn/Scizor, and lets you win against Mega Gengar in Ubers.

Did you even ride the Hide part of the post? Or watch the replay, for that matter? If a move can't even score an OHKO on a Pokemon that's 4x weak to it, I'm pretty sure that means it an awful idea to begin with...
By the way, how in the hell does FLAMETHROWER help Blissey win against Mega Gengar?
0 SpA Blissey Flamethrower vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Mega Gengar: 54-64 (20.6 - 24.4%) -- guaranteed 5HKO
252 SpA Mega Gengar Focus Blast vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Blissey: 248-292 (34.7 - 40.8%) -- 60.3% chance to 3HKO after Leftovers recovery
So, the numbers state that Mega Gengar not only outspeeds, but 3-4HKOs Blissey with Focus Blast, while Blissey barely 5HKOs Mega Gengar. As if that wasn't enough, Disable. That is all.
(Oh, and regarding your Ferrothorn statement: 0 SpA Blissey Flamethrower vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Ferrothorn: 180-216 (51.1 - 61.3%) -- 92.6% chance to 2HKO after Leftovers recovery, and that's without Leech Seed factored in)

 

[Sergeant Spooky]

If a move can't even score an OHKO on a Pokemon that's 4x weak to it, I'm pretty sure that means it an awful idea to begin with...

A 2HKO is better than never KOing at all.

 

[Elveman]

Did you even ride the Hide part of the post? Or watch the replay, for that matter? If a move can't even score an OHKO on a Pokemon that's 4x weak to it, I'm pretty sure that means it an awful idea to begin with...
By the way, how in the hell does FLAMETHROWER help Blissey win against Mega Gengar?
0 SpA Blissey Flamethrower vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Mega Gengar: 54-64 (20.6 - 24.4%) -- guaranteed 5HKO
252 SpA Mega Gengar Focus Blast vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Blissey: 248-292 (34.7 - 40.8%) -- 60.3% chance to 3HKO after Leftovers recovery
So, the numbers state that Mega Gengar not only outspeeds, but 3-4HKOs Blissey with Focus Blast, while Blissey barely 5HKOs Mega Gengar. As if that wasn't enough, Disable. That is all.
(Oh, and regarding your Ferrothorn statement: 0 SpA Blissey Flamethrower vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Ferrothorn: 180-216 (51.1 - 61.3%) -- 92.6% chance to 2HKO after Leftovers recovery)

Yup. Because Tyranitar's Flamethrower doesn't always OHKO some Scizors, M-Man's Flamethrower doesn't OHKO some Ferrothorns, and Garchomp's Fire Blast OHKOs neither. Definitely unviable it's sarcasm btw

 

[FlameUser64]

Also, Life Orb Dnite, Fuck Multiscale

That's actually kinda a thing. Multiscale lets you set up DDances, then Life Orb augments your offensive power. You can also use Roost to offset Life Orb recoil if you feel comfortable running only two attacking moves.

 

[Ze Diglett]

Yup. Because Tyranitar's Flamethrower doesn't always OHKO some Scizors, M-Man's Flamethrower doesn't OHKO some Ferrothorns, and Garchomp's Fire Blast OHKOs neither. Definitely unviable it's sarcasm btw

M-Man really doesn't have any business running any offensive set except Volt Switch / HP Ice / Thunderbolt / Flamethrower, unless they opt for the more powerful Overheat. As for Garchomp, ChainChomp wasn't really a great set to begin with. Hey, you nitpick some, I nitpick some. Seems fair to me.

That having been said, Blissey can be running multiple better (and less situational) moves over Fire Blast, such as Seismic Toss, Heal Bell, Wish, Toxic, T-Wave, Protect, etc., etc., and etc. If running Flamethrower on Blissey is okay because it "deals with" Scizor, Ferrothorn, and Forretress, then you may as well be running Dragon Claw on Mega-Zard Y because it does more damage than Dragon Pulse against Goodra. Give me a break.

 

[Elveman]

M-Man really doesn't have any business running any offensive set except Volt Switch / HP Ice / Thunderbolt / Flamethrower, unless they opt for the more powerful Overheat. As for Garchomp, ChainChomp wasn't really a great set to begin with. Hey, you nitpick some, I nitpick some. Seems fair to me.

That having been said, Blissey can be running multiple better (and less situational) moves over Fire Blast, such as Seismic Toss, Heal Bell, Wish, Toxic, T-Wave, Protect, etc., etc., and etc. If running Flamethrower on Blissey is okay because it "deals with" Scizor, Ferrothorn, and Forretress, then you may as well be running Dragon Claw on Mega-Zard Y because it does more damage than Dragon Pulse against Goodra. Give me a break.

Pls, we need to leave ChainChomp in gen 4, I was talking about Scarfchomp. Yup, this logic is somewhat unbeatable BUT Blissey NEEDS some sort of attacking move (not to be Taunt bait), and it can allow to replace SToss with Flamethrower to deal with pokemon with high usage (and Scizor+Ferrothorn DEFINITELY have more usage than Goodra hope for Forretress after Deo-D ban). Also F-thrower is used for Ferrothorn and Forretress to avoid hazardfest. Moreover, AFAIK, Flamethrower was an option on Blissey in gen 5 Smogon movesets.

 

[llamatastic]

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/ou-136014241
At first, I thought this guy's team was pretty much legit.

That is, until I found out that he was running FLAMETHROWER BLISSEY.

Hide

I tried convincing him that 90 non-STAB BP coming off of 75 base SpAtk. isn't viable, but he said it was to catch Scizor users off guard (why anyone would switch Scizor into Blissey as their wallbreaker, I have no clue). Even after I demonstrate how Blissey's Flamethrower fails to even catch an OHKO on a mon that's 4x weak to it, he still wouldn't budge. Ah well, noobs will be noobs, even in 1400+ ladder ranking.

Why is switching scizor into blissey surprising? Scizor has superpower and u-turn and blissey can't do much to it if it's running toxic and doesn't have flamethrower.

 

[DC-Shadow_Blaze]

I was on my way to get a burger, and ran into a physically oriented hydreigon...Looks like someone forgot to press B.

 

[Elveman]

I was on my way to get a burger, and ran into a physically oriented hydreigon...Looks like someone forgot to press B.

What kind of physical moves did it have? Superpower, U-turn and Earthquake are by no means bad on Hydreigon to get past blobs, get momentum or deal with Heatran

 

[DC-Shadow_Blaze]

What kind of physical moves did it have? Superpower, U-turn and Earthquake are by no means bad on Hydreigon to get past blobs, get momentum or deal with Heatran

Crunch and Dragon Rush. Still want to defend the guy?

 

[sg pokemon]

More fresh news from ubers:
Thunderbolt Ho-oh.
Surf Lugia.
Lum Berry Zekrom(idk about this one, is it legit?)
A Meotwo which tricked me a Choice Band.
Genesect holding a Douse Drive.

 

[Evilfaic]

More fresh news from ubers:
Thunderbolt Ho-oh.
Surf Lugia.
Lum Berry Zekrom(idk about this one, is it legit?)
A Meotwo which tricked me a Choice Band.
Genesect holding a Douse Drive.

Lum Berry Zekrom can be legit on the Hone Claws set.
Douse Drive is sometimes used on Genesect because it gets moves that make the other 3 drives redundant (Flamethrower, Thunderbolt, Ice Beam). It doesn't get a Water move (or if it does, not a good one).

 

[sg pokemon]

More fresh news from ubers:
Blizzard Mega Meotwo Y.
Blizzard Mew.
A whole team with pokemon unviable in ubers,ALL OF WHOM WERE HOLDING AGUAV BERRIES.