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I'm not going to get involved for most of the discussion taking place but regarding the above post.
Yes they were both broken as shit especially when Greninja gained move tutors. More stuff needed to be banned in ORAS anyways cause even ending the tier was largely match up based and there were still a handful of really strong forces both pokemon, ex. M-Lopunny, and mechanics, ex. Thunder Wave, that outside of the smogon politics should've took a serious look at. Bringing back stuff down from Ubers is not a good way to balance a tier. Never has and more than likely never will.did Greninja with the move-tutor moves and Mega Mawile need to be banned really?
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