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(Little) Things that annoy you in Pokémon
- Thread starter BriarRose
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They're grinding. Think about it, when people grind in VR, they always stick close to the entrance/exit to get back quickly to the Center.
Ironically, Steel and Dark are the OG balance patch types.
The type chart interactions are super delicate. There's definitely a lot that could work if they were willing to adjust some interactions though.
Fairy gaining a weakness to Bug and Steel losing its grass and bug resistance would do a lot
Sometimes a big overhaul seems good to me but we know the type chart since so long that this would become really problematic. The changes to Steel in gen 6 tripped me up a lot, even though I believe that these were quite good changes
But Bug-Type is good, actually. SE on Psychic and Dark is very valuable, especially since everything else that hits one of the types SE is resisted by the other (besides Fairy which is neutral on Psychic and SE on Dark). On the flip side, resistance to Fighting and Ground is excellent, as these are two of the top offensive types in the game, though it shares the glory of countering those types with Flying.
Bug is one of the types in the game that is in some ways overtuned. I wouldn't claim it's outstanding or anything, but what it does do is patches up nice holes in the type chart and that makes it a valuable addition to teams. Even being SE on Grass-Type made it valuable coverage for Electric-Type Pokémon, before Signal Beam was cut in Gen 8 likely because it was such good coverage for those Electric-Type mons (GF really made Electric-Type Pokémon suffer this gen fwr).
That's not to say the type chart is balanced. Ice-, Grass-, Fire-, Ghost-, and believe it or not Psychic-Type are all pretty feeble and should be retuned.
- Fire-Type has one important niche (hitting Steel SE) but that doesn't mean much when it shares that accolade with Ground-Type, one of the best types in the game, and beyond that the best claim it has is resisting Fairy-Type, but Poison-Type is a much better-rounded defensive type to beat Fairy mons with thanks to only having 2 weaknesses (one being the rare Psychic-Type).
- Psychic-Type is replaced by Fairy-Type as the best counter to Fighting, and has never beaten Ground in being the best counter to Poison as Ground also resists Poison. It's an alright Defensive-Type on paper until you realise U-Turn and Knock Off exist, and its useful resistance of Fighting all run that now.
- Ice-Type is Ice-Type. No resistances besides itself and you're almost always better off using a Water-Type mon with Ice Beam. Crying.
- Grass-Type is categorically the worst defensive type in the game besides Ice, with a caveat: resistances to Electric and Ground. Like Bug, it's one of those types that patches up two very opposing types in Psychic and Dark, and that's valuable. Except, Electric and Ground are two of the best types in the game, and Grass really doesn't do enough to carve its niche. It can switch into Electric and get Volt Switched on, or it can switch into a Ground mon as it uses Toxic or another similar utility move, as most Ground mons run. ZU is always teeming with Grass mons because they fail to find a place. Worse, is that Electric-Type being so good means Grass being one of two things to hit Water-Type SE is less valuable, though there are enough Water/Ground mons to give Grass a place with that. Grass is the best of the 5 I'm discussing here, but is still a D-Tier type.
- Ghost-Type is just worse Dark-Type lmoa.
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All 4 of these designs are pristine and deserved so much better than being trapped in the dirges of in-game irrelevancy induced by mythical hell.
All 4 of these designs are pristine and deserved so much better than being trapped in the dirges of in-game irrelevancy induced by mythical hell.
Ironically, it's somewhat perceived as the worst type in the game.
I actually think that too. Bug and Ice are atrocious for different reasons and clearly a tier below everything else.
You say as your Avatar is a Bug-type Specialist.
Stop bullying Guzma, he did nothing wrong!You say as your Avatar is a Bug-type Specialist.
Bug-type Legendary when?
To be fair, he also thinks everyone's dumb but still cares for everyone, maybe Volt-Ikazuchi is the same, he thinks all bug types suck but still loves and proteccs themYou say as your Avatar is a Bug-type Specialist.
I'm not bully Guzma, he's my Alola boi (he's my favorite Bug-type user)!
Volt-Ikazuchi is the one bashing on Bug-types.
You know, it occurs to me that we never really learn Guzma's opinion on Bug-types. Sure, he's a Type Specialist of them and collected all the Buginium Z so no one could use the Bug-type Z-Move, but we never hear him say he likes Bug-types. "Are you saying Guzma may not like them"? No, because while he never said is preference for Bug-types we do know his favorite Pokemon is Golispod which is part Bug (and Water but there's already an Alolan Water Specialist so not going to be collecting all of those Z-Crystals).To be fair, he also thinks everyone's dumb but still cares for everyone, maybe Volt-Ikazuchi is the same, he thinks all bug types suck but still loves and proteccs them
The only other time he specifically talks about Bug-type is in Pokemon Masters in an event he has with Bugsy. But, once again, he doesn't specifically mention his opinions. The event is more a cute scene where Bugsy is excited about seeing a Golisopod, Guzma is at first annoyed, but seeing Bugsy is genuine in his excitement and admiration for Bug-types lets Bugsy observe Golisopod.
Though Guzma does have another Pokemon he uses in Masters: Buzzwole. Guzma seems less "in-tune" with Buzzwole, not really understanding its behavior to flex (though apparently gets caught flexing along with it in one conversation). However, he then has one conversation that reveals more about his thoughts on Buzzwole, which relates to him as well. He says, because Buzzwole is an Ultra Beast, people are scared of it even though its done nothing wrong. This "bums him out" and he reveals he's judged by people all the time in Alola even by people that didn't know him. While this conversation specifically refers to Buzzwole and it being an Ultra Beast, Guzma's comments could also be used to describe the Bug-type in general (and thus his connection with them).
Dang, I got exposed. I blame Scizor.To be fair, he also thinks everyone's dumb but still cares for everyone, maybe Volt-Ikazuchi is the same, he thinks all bug types suck but still loves and proteccs them
Guzma almost definitely likes Bug-types, and I even suspect making Guzma a Bug-type trainer was a very intentional reflection of Team Skull. Most Bug-types and their trainers are, in a sort of meta sense, rejects that could never amount to much. Bug-type Pokemon are traditionally weak early game Pokemon that peak early and then fall off, the classic Bug Catcher is almost a joke class rivaled only by the Fishermen and their affinity for Magikarp, and the Bug type itself is widely considered the worst overall type in the game. Despite some outstanding tools like U-turn, Sticky Web, and Quiver Dance, Bug-types are told they're aren't good enough and aren't taken seriously, which are exactly Guzma's and Team Skull's motives for lashing out at the world around them.
Shout out to Masqerain, who gained a big stat buff, Quiver Dance, and Sticky Web by Gen VII and still isn't good.
At least Surskit is a decent LC hazard setter.
I think one of the main things holding Bug back is just all the Types which resist it. They really need something like a Move or Item which lets them pierce through at least half of those (like something they will let them hurt Fairy, Fighting, Flying, and Poison Types would help).
You can praise U-Turn for that.
U-turn is already one of the strongest moves in the game, mainly held in check by the fact it's rarely valid for the damage it does outside vs the few types weak to it. Imagine if it was actually good enough to do damage.
Consider that most of the bug types corrently banned to Ubers are banned there most notaly due to the strong spammable U-turns they can throw, basically free-pivoting out while also dealing significant dmg (Pheromosa, Genesect, I'd count Cinderace in this too since it basically gets stab U-turn).
Now imagine if some of the other notable fast U-turners like Dragapult could actually just click it for damage rather than for momentum...
Bingo. It doesn't take a lot of thinking to understand the type with a ton of early-game junk is bad overall. It does have some fairly disgusting moves though.
Maybe a couple less resists on offense would be nice. (Seriously Fairy, wtf?)
New response:
Hey now, I'm moving up the chain of command! We'll see if I now just hover in a state of limbo or I get to talk to someone who can do something... or be yelled at by upper management there's nothing that can be done so go away. *Sits and waits patiently*
Scizor has the same BST as it's prevolutions. It's BST should have been 540
I've just learned that Bulbapedia translates Cute Charm's Japanese name as Mad Love Body (Mad Love being Attract's name, and Body being similar to Flame Body).
Mad Love Body is possibly the worst name for anything in the Pokemon franchise, and I don't know whether I hate it being on Cleffa or Lopunny more.
Mad Love Body is possibly the worst name for anything in the Pokemon franchise, and I don't know whether I hate it being on Cleffa or Lopunny more.
