Has to be free battle... how else would you use things like the level 1 Aron, Smeargle, and FEAR strats?In that case, are you arguing FOR Item Clause? Because the actual cartridge enforces Item Clause on everything except Free Battle.
Has to be free battle... how else would you use things like the level 1 Aron, Smeargle, and FEAR strats?In that case, are you arguing FOR Item Clause? Because the actual cartridge enforces Item Clause on everything except Free Battle.
Actually, you can't do FEAR strats in Normal Rules (which I have been erroneously calling Free Battle) because it sets all of your Mons to level 50, even if they're lower. You can do FEAR in No Restrictions, though.Has to be free battle... how else would you use things like the level 1 Aron, Smeargle, and FEAR strats?
In Link Battles with Normal Rules or No Restrictions, yes, but in Free Battles, no.wifi does use all 6 pokemon
Just saying, I won't be using a SDef Heatran without a non-offensive move. In fact, most SDef Heatran run only one attacking moves (or two) and use Protect to abuse Lefties + Statut damages.Well you could always run your SDef Heatran with Assault Vest, making SDef even higher, which personally I would prefer on him rather than healing which could be used on another (even though it restricts moves)
Unless I'm doing something wrong, there's no way to Random Battle someone unless you do it through Battle Spot, and Battle Spot only supports 3v3 for Singles.But in random battle wifi it does
Well sure with clause you could still use leftovers on him, but then you think of what synergies work with that, does not stop him being viable because the other 5 cannot use the same item.Just saying, I won't be using a SDef Heatran without a non-offensive move. In fact, most SDef Heatran run only one attacking moves (or two) and use Protect to abuse Lefties + Statut damages.
Well I normally run Cresselia dual screen with light clay, so that does not stop me there.... and for Sun teams I normally ran Ninetails with airballoon to switch in on locked ground type moves... so...... still nothing stopping me there.I really don't see how we promote variety there. As some people said, I'd even be the contrary that happens. SunStall, for example, often ran bulky Ninetales + Cresselia. Both had Lefties, both used non-attacking moves. And now ? Bam, you can't use Cresselia, a niche Pokemon who appears only thanks to Lefties.
Why not mega blastoise? can rapid spin, use pulse moves, has good def.Blastoise in OU ? Not gonna happen, you'll have to use Tentacruel.
Ironically that is quite creative thinking, and it relied on a lack of item clause to work. So much for "item clause breeds creativity".However as a lot of people say that stalls teams are not viable without leftovers on everyone single mon I'll make sure to use a guy with knockoff as a check for every single one then?
but by some peoples logic should that move not be banned? I mean it is BP 65, double if an item is held? and it removes the defensive item? that is far worse than item clause, I mean it destroys the whole stall meta-game!Ironically that is quite creative thinking, and it relied on a lack of item clause to work. So much for "item clause breeds creativity".
Nintendo does have balance, just not for what the 6v6 metagame. Nintendo balances the game for the stuff that they actually care about, 3 v 3 singles and 4v4 doubles. I also laugh at anyone who says Rocks are balance in anyway. The Reason Smogon existed was to help create a metagame where there was none, now there is one that Nintendo cares about and balances for. Of which part of that is Item Clause which is enforced in every aspect of of the competitive play besides "no restrictions" The Clauses like Sleep Clause might not be enforced by the game itself, but no decent player will be that much of a jerkwad to actually go against it, Same with Double Team Clause.The reason i play here is because i hate nintendo's dumb and arbitrary restrictions. I want to have my freedom to pick my moves and pokemons. Restrictions should only be implemented for balancing purposes. Are multiple copies of the same item broken? No. Then why should we change anything? What is this trend now with people wanting to limit our competitive play with pointless and arbitrary rules? This is not what this place is about, the thing that separate us from the official meta is our freedom and different mindset for rules that priorizes balance. Thats why we exist, thats why even people that do have the original game, still play here.
Ironically that is quite creative thinking, and it relied on a lack of item clause to work. So much for "item clause breeds creativity".
Technically, the choices will be diverse from the current meta...It's funny how the OP claims that an item clause will promote diversity when it's just one more rule that limits people's choices.
yyyyes it can? this isn't a new thing, artists have done this since the beginning of timeThe phrase "enforcing creativity" is an oxymoron. Creativity cannot be forced, however much you try. This is a pretty basic concept, I really hope it's not some strange new thing to you.
Yeah, its called the World of pokemon...........everyone on smogon lives in a strange dream world
Being forced to run subpar crap to fill the void created by this rule is not ''diversity''. This is limiting player choices, imposing arbitrary restrictions. If you think a mon or item is good enough to be used in high tiers, feel free to use it and try to come up with a viable set. This is the beauty of smogon. We only enforce rules that go against a competitive metagame (sleep clause, moody clause and friends), otherwise youre free to make your choices and come up with creative and viable teams. Stop trying to limit the way we play, we want to have freedom, we want balance and we want to enjoy this game.Technically, the choices will be diverse from the current meta...
You completely missed the meaning of my post. Well done.Being forced to run subpar crap to fill the void created by this rule is not ''diversity''. This is limiting player choices, imposing arbitrary restrictions. If you think a mon or item is good enough to be used in high tiers, feel free to use it and try to come up with a viable set. This is the beauty of smogon. We only enforce rules that go against a competitive metagame (sleep clause, moody clause and friends), otherwise youre free to make your choices and come up with creative and viable teams. Stop trying to limit the way we play, we want to have freedom, we want balance and we want to enjoy this game.