Good evening! As many of you know, Fireburn and I have been discussing a huge tournament for this community for a while now. The one thing giving us pause was interest level: if there were not enough players from within this community willing to play at the tournament level (i don't really care how many outsiders sign up), then there is no point in running an ambitious tournament like this. I steadfastly REFUSE to be Furai 2.0 and run a dead tournament that no one is excited about. Anyway, both weekend tournaments were successful, with each gathering ~48 players (while most of the weekend tournaments for NU, RU, and UU got around 32 players). I give you guys a lot of credit for making those tournaments successful.
You guys will decide exactly what kind of tournament we will have! I have attached a poll to this thread and everyone is encouraged to vote on what you would like to see. You are encouraged to post in this thread explaining your thought process behind your vote, especially if you choose the "other" category: I am all ears to suggestions.
Options:
Seasonal - Basically, what doubles is doing now is a very large double elimination tournament. A double elimination tournament increases the # of games played, which in turn increases the overall odds that the winner is deserving / won because they were one of the best, if not the best players in the entire tournament.
Note: If you guys decide on a seasonal, I'd like to set up one double elimination for the summer, then see how it goes. If it goes well (which I assume it would) we can plan out three more tournaments for the Fall, Winter, and Spring, as well as set up a leaderboard. We would definitely have an invite-only tournament next summer (consisting of the top 8 players on the leaderboard) to determine the overall champion.
ATP style tournament - Alternatively, we can spend the next 6 months or so participating in an ATP style tournament. Basically, an ATP tournament objectively ranks players based on their tournament performance. Ubers tournaments that would be used to rank people include the Lower Tier Tournament, Minority Suspect's tournament, the Ubers Open, and any other Ubers tournament that will take place from now until January of next year. The top 4-8 players in the Ubers ATP rankings will have an opportunity to participate in a Best of 3 single-elimination tournament early next year. See this link for more information on how such a tournament would work: http://www.smogon.com/forums/thread...system-for-tournaments-updated-01-03.3514900/ Fireburn and I would come up with our own scoring system, likely with the help of TD's.
Other - Any ideas? I don't want to do a team tournament since MUTE and UPL just ended but I'm willing to listen to suggestions.
Time: The tournament will begin ASAP. If the community chooses a seasonal, sign-ups will open next week. If the community chooses an ATP tournament, then we have actually already begun with this past weekend's Live Tournament, The playoffs will probably begin at the end of the year.
Reward: I am currently unsure of the award for the victor, but imagine SS would be alright with me awarding a banner for winning a tournament of this size. The runner-up will have the honor of changing my signature for a week if they so choose.
Purpose: High-level tournaments are known to be exclusive. For example, SPL only has 10 starting Ubers slots, and most of those go to already established players, leaving little room for new blood on a year-to-year basis. There are other tournaments where players can prove their worth -- MUTE, Ubers Premier League, and Ubers Open being prime examples -- but two of these three are team tournaments where you cannot prove yourself that much on an individual level unless you completely dominate, and Ubers Open tends to be watered down with non-Ubers players so it isn't that hard for an above-average player to make a deep run. A large tournament encompassing much of this community (as well as capable players from outside the community) would do wonders for increasing the winner's visibility on this site! Plus, there is no downside to such a tournament now that you guys have proven your interest in it by signing up for the live weekend tournamentsand by CONSTANTLY bugging me about it on IRC.
LET'S FUCKING GET IT!
You guys will decide exactly what kind of tournament we will have! I have attached a poll to this thread and everyone is encouraged to vote on what you would like to see. You are encouraged to post in this thread explaining your thought process behind your vote, especially if you choose the "other" category: I am all ears to suggestions.
Options:
Seasonal - Basically, what doubles is doing now is a very large double elimination tournament. A double elimination tournament increases the # of games played, which in turn increases the overall odds that the winner is deserving / won because they were one of the best, if not the best players in the entire tournament.
Note: If you guys decide on a seasonal, I'd like to set up one double elimination for the summer, then see how it goes. If it goes well (which I assume it would) we can plan out three more tournaments for the Fall, Winter, and Spring, as well as set up a leaderboard. We would definitely have an invite-only tournament next summer (consisting of the top 8 players on the leaderboard) to determine the overall champion.
ATP style tournament - Alternatively, we can spend the next 6 months or so participating in an ATP style tournament. Basically, an ATP tournament objectively ranks players based on their tournament performance. Ubers tournaments that would be used to rank people include the Lower Tier Tournament, Minority Suspect's tournament, the Ubers Open, and any other Ubers tournament that will take place from now until January of next year. The top 4-8 players in the Ubers ATP rankings will have an opportunity to participate in a Best of 3 single-elimination tournament early next year. See this link for more information on how such a tournament would work: http://www.smogon.com/forums/thread...system-for-tournaments-updated-01-03.3514900/ Fireburn and I would come up with our own scoring system, likely with the help of TD's.
Other - Any ideas? I don't want to do a team tournament since MUTE and UPL just ended but I'm willing to listen to suggestions.
Time: The tournament will begin ASAP. If the community chooses a seasonal, sign-ups will open next week. If the community chooses an ATP tournament, then we have actually already begun with this past weekend's Live Tournament, The playoffs will probably begin at the end of the year.
Reward: I am currently unsure of the award for the victor, but imagine SS would be alright with me awarding a banner for winning a tournament of this size. The runner-up will have the honor of changing my signature for a week if they so choose.
Purpose: High-level tournaments are known to be exclusive. For example, SPL only has 10 starting Ubers slots, and most of those go to already established players, leaving little room for new blood on a year-to-year basis. There are other tournaments where players can prove their worth -- MUTE, Ubers Premier League, and Ubers Open being prime examples -- but two of these three are team tournaments where you cannot prove yourself that much on an individual level unless you completely dominate, and Ubers Open tends to be watered down with non-Ubers players so it isn't that hard for an above-average player to make a deep run. A large tournament encompassing much of this community (as well as capable players from outside the community) would do wonders for increasing the winner's visibility on this site! Plus, there is no downside to such a tournament now that you guys have proven your interest in it by signing up for the live weekend tournaments
LET'S FUCKING GET IT!
