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NOC Charge Me Up! Mafia GAME OVER MAFIA (psy, Laurel, af) WINS!
- Thread starter JALMONT
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did you figure anything out?
that tracks with what i saw. you said something about like me yelling at laurel made you townread laurel or something. i quoted a post near it one sec
this. i dont really understand this conversation even
maybe im misreading the him in the first post because i took that to mean celever
but then how do you get to talking about "me picking fights with laurel" and i dont understand how that makes you townread laurel, particularly because your framing and understanding of it seems to be me doing something to laurel, with laurel as a passive participant. so why does that make laurel town
I definitely meant to say Laurel
Umm, I think the idea was "Scum laurel does nothing all game" and "he's defending himself so he might be town"
which obviously is faulty logic
idk what i was thinking
this is like. almost too bad
ive definitely never seen mc quake under pressure this much
okay i need this saved draft to stop appearing
this is the only time from what i saw that joey really has any read on either laurel or fairy. it sticks out cause both of these are kind of cop outs imo lol. laurels is "i think hes nai but id be fiiiine voting him rolling eyes emoji" and fairys is her not talking enough which i think makes enough sense for her d1 but i dont remember at what point this was to know for sure
similar to mc at this stage, lots of undercutting of pulsar. and so again its like the same question of does joey try to shift things for pulsar to go over fairy? he actually justifies it though later when he throws away the suspicion by saying he thought it was lylo which like ??? but also i think i lean towards believing it. its a brilliant excuse if hes mafia though
overall this iso was just kind of uninspiring. the only other big thing to mention was the celever scrap where like joey did genuinely contradict himself with the whole no claims thing but idk i read that enough back then. his read flip on celever is still weird and like i found it so odd at the time when he first said it i fully expected him to be joking but like idk
yeah at this point fairy had posted a few conversational messages and that was it so idt anyone had a read there lol
And I stand by the Laurel thing, at that point he had basically just complained about getting town and being bored which I think he would definitely do as town and did here as mafia
also I know I didn't give reasonings here but I did have Laurel and fairy on the scumlean side
okay fair i skimmed past that one
honestly i dont feel like i have anything left to pick apart like mcs iso and posting today itself has been really incriminating. joey has red flags but not to the same extent, and i dont feel like ipls behavior in his entry makes sense as mafia. ill probably sit on it for a minute still but like i think im done
A pure VC analysis Part 2:
Day 1:
laurel (4) - realiti, dusk, ipl, pulsar
tigershark (6) - laurel, nightemerald, ehmcee, neon, a fairy, celever
realiti (1) - psy
not voting (3) - joey, etay/Hydro, tigershark
Day 2:
laurel (1) - nightemerald
celever (5) - pulsar, dusk, imperfectluck, a fairy, realiti
pulsar (4) - joey, celever, laurel, ehmcee
ipl (1) - psy
not voting - HH
Day 3:
pulsar (1) - a fairy
fairy (9) - realiti, ehmcee, pulsar, psy, dusk, laurel, joey, ipl, hh
Day 4:
dusk (2) - pulsar, laurel
laurel (5) - psy, joey, dusk, ipl, ehmcee
Day 5:
HH - joey, ipl, pulsar, ehmcee, psy
not voting - HH
Realistically, the only days we can really pull info from this are Day 1 and Day 2, 3/4 are obvious buses for scum partner anyway due to being forced and day 5 was just pretty much a mutual agreement to stick to a Laurel->HH->me formula.
A thing of note is that on day 2, I arrive super late and pretty much 3 minutes before EOD, I halfhazardly throw in a vote for "wagonomics" sake. My vote here probably doesn't mean much, so you can read into it as much as you want.
In retrospect, I'm not quite sure why I stuck with HH that easily, given that Laurel's whole point was wanting HH dead first / offering to kill him afterwards. There's definitely the universe where they were double scum, and Laurel was trying to get cred by bussing Hydro, but I don't think that's the universe.
This past list doesn't really reveal that much, the only real thing I'd say is that I don't think a scumteam of me/fairy/Laurel all stack tigershark on that same day, stacking seems incredibly counterproductive and revealing.
One curious thing is the IPL vote from Psy, only being justified as "Having a bad feeling", and "I don't want to give people ideas". He then switches to Laurel for a considerable part of the day, before switching to pulsar, and then finally switches back to IPL without reasoning close to DL.
Ultimately I think imma look at the conversations between Psy and IPL further, I think it's become esentially a 50/40/10 in my book in regards to IPL/Psy/Joey
Day 1:
laurel (4) - realiti, dusk, ipl, pulsar
tigershark (6) - laurel, nightemerald, ehmcee, neon, a fairy, celever
realiti (1) - psy
not voting (3) - joey, etay/Hydro, tigershark
Day 2:
laurel (1) - nightemerald
celever (5) - pulsar, dusk, imperfectluck, a fairy, realiti
pulsar (4) - joey, celever, laurel, ehmcee
ipl (1) - psy
not voting - HH
Day 3:
pulsar (1) - a fairy
fairy (9) - realiti, ehmcee, pulsar, psy, dusk, laurel, joey, ipl, hh
Day 4:
dusk (2) - pulsar, laurel
laurel (5) - psy, joey, dusk, ipl, ehmcee
Day 5:
HH - joey, ipl, pulsar, ehmcee, psy
not voting - HH
Realistically, the only days we can really pull info from this are Day 1 and Day 2, 3/4 are obvious buses for scum partner anyway due to being forced and day 5 was just pretty much a mutual agreement to stick to a Laurel->HH->me formula.
A thing of note is that on day 2, I arrive super late and pretty much 3 minutes before EOD, I halfhazardly throw in a vote for "wagonomics" sake. My vote here probably doesn't mean much, so you can read into it as much as you want.
In retrospect, I'm not quite sure why I stuck with HH that easily, given that Laurel's whole point was wanting HH dead first / offering to kill him afterwards. There's definitely the universe where they were double scum, and Laurel was trying to get cred by bussing Hydro, but I don't think that's the universe.
This past list doesn't really reveal that much, the only real thing I'd say is that I don't think a scumteam of me/fairy/Laurel all stack tigershark on that same day, stacking seems incredibly counterproductive and revealing.
One curious thing is the IPL vote from Psy, only being justified as "Having a bad feeling", and "I don't want to give people ideas". He then switches to Laurel for a considerable part of the day, before switching to pulsar, and then finally switches back to IPL without reasoning close to DL.
There's then a big debacle between IPL and Psy which I can barely take anything from.
Ultimately I think imma look at the conversations between Psy and IPL further, I think it's become esentially a 50/40/10 in my book in regards to IPL/Psy/Joey
I think the thing right now, is we're kind of in a spot where me and IPL are essentially pitted against each other, and I really don't like the idea of commiting to it in the case that Psy is actually scum.
Reading back, the idea of not wanting to kill inactives and going for no votes definitely feels like a more towny attitude (even though I disagree with the idea), I don't think he takes that risk as scum.
Reading back, the idea of not wanting to kill inactives and going for no votes definitely feels like a more towny attitude (even though I disagree with the idea), I don't think he takes that risk as scum.