I'm tempted to try hurl on breloom because toxic orb makes hurl a 30 BP dark attack ( lol ) but have a 100% chance and acc of causing toxic status on the foe (which is why i'm suggesting it) you'd get some more use out of your toxic orb after you trigger poison heal but i'm not sure what move to drop for it.
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A thought i had with breloom
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Replace Stone Edge on the standard Spore Puncher? *shrugs*
I guess (Spore/Substitute) / Focus Punch / Seed Bomb / Fling could work. I am intrigued by the idea of getting some use out of Toxic Orb after being poisoned, but seeing as how I don't use Breloom on a regular basis, I have no idea if the one-time use of Fling takes away needed versatility. I get the impression that Breloom has better things to do, though.
EDIT: This reminds me of the idea I once had with Substitute / Protect / Focus Punch / (Seed Bomb/Stone Edge)--the intention to create "Stalloom." Yeah, that didn't work out too well.
I guess (Spore/Substitute) / Focus Punch / Seed Bomb / Fling could work. I am intrigued by the idea of getting some use out of Toxic Orb after being poisoned, but seeing as how I don't use Breloom on a regular basis, I have no idea if the one-time use of Fling takes away needed versatility. I get the impression that Breloom has better things to do, though.
EDIT: This reminds me of the idea I once had with Substitute / Protect / Focus Punch / (Seed Bomb/Stone Edge)--the intention to create "Stalloom." Yeah, that didn't work out too well.
Except that with Toxic Orb attached, Fling is strictly superior to Toxic.
Fling can be used:
*To deal damage
*Under a Taunt
*With 100% Acc
But only once. After which, Toxic is strictly superior to Fling.
Strict theorymon here, but it seems to me that one-benefit moves like Fling that consume items are generally better in a 3 on 3 battle where each move potentially has a greater impact.
In some future generation some item will probably come out that gives Fling a use. However, it's hard to see it this gen, and even harder to see it among the more drawn out 6 on 6.
In some future generation some item will probably come out that gives Fling a use. However, it's hard to see it this gen, and even harder to see it among the more drawn out 6 on 6.
Breloom @ Toxic Orb
Poison Heal
Impish 252 Hp 64 Atk 176 Sp def 16 Spd
Leech seed
Bulk up
Protect
Drain punch
Way better stalloom.
It gets poison heal activated THEN it Flings to get toxic status. That is better than just toxic. I think that it suffers from only-four-move-slots syndrome, unfortunately.
That hurts Grass-types (especially Grass/Poison-types) how?
Quoted for truth. Breloom is pretty much a one-trick mushroom. It does it's thing well, but that's about all it can do.
ooh i just though of something for a item claused 2v2 this could be a handy way to trigger poison heal with the aid of your magic guard clefable ally who hold toxic orb who flings it to breloom who takes jack shit damage due to resist and 30 BP and now is toxic status triggering poison heal (and your free to have leftovers on this breloom for more shits and giggles)
Lolbreloom @ toxic orb:
spore
fling
sub
leech seed
Stay alive forever!
spore
fling
sub
leech seed
Stay alive forever!
Fling works best on a Weavile Holding Steel Orb on the last turn of Trick Room. It flings the Orb for a 130x1.5= 195 Base Damage attack (and goes first holdign the orb) for a 1hko, and then the next turn recovers the speed after Troom wears off and sweeps continuosly.
Poison types can't be poisoned at all.
Contrary to popluar belief, steels and poisons don't get poisned by normalize delcatty.
Grounds can get paralyzed with forcepalm/bodyslam/secret power/etc
not in dp
Hmmm probably wouldn't use without Fling+Thief, 18% is always helpful. I'd probably not even use Spore or Focus Punch on the set, cause their caution at try to switch to someone in fear of being put asleep can be put to your advantage. Having Sky Uppercut to randomly spam also helps, for example: against a Tyranitar after you already slept something.
BUT the metagame is too filled with Lucarios and Garchomps right now to be attempting to stall, but when stall teams were popular, this would've been handy!
BUT the metagame is too filled with Lucarios and Garchomps right now to be attempting to stall, but when stall teams were popular, this would've been handy!
Oh god, I'm retarded. I meant can't steel types be poisoned by Twineedle [/facepalm].