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NOC Popcorn Mafia 3 Game Thread
- Thread starter Nuxl
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there really are just too many lhf slots this game its pretty rough. at least jalmont might pick up some slack but we have to sort through chad/caff/hydro/whydon/tbz/kind of mc too. if they were all town thatd put us at 7 v 5 and like i think the odds of them all being town are a little low but theres also no telling that any of them will actually follow any sort of poe or suggestions we set in place for them
hi im sosorry for not being around i have two things to host today and a competition tmr busy sorry
hydro please.... i dont wanna shoot you but the people command me to.....
Can we talk after I finish emceeing I have a rehearsal in a bit
I will try to be here in breaks
wait omg good luck thats awesome
fair enough (you are!!! you were so good last game)
also gl hydro break a leg
pls i pushed two wrong votes in a row and then i happened to push two right votes in a row i think i balance out to a fairly standard player
are u mafia or ??? wat
started reading isos and then got sidetracked by irl, but here's what i sifted through:
HydrogenHydreigon
the insistence on stating when he's leaving & arrived to thread is strange, lol. it's not that out of left field if this is in the same vein of him saying gm all the time in eimm, but like in general i think that sort of thread approach breaks slightly more mafia that feels the need to cough up content. there's nothing standout that makes hydro appear scummy to me though, and he falls somewhere close to whydon for me in that i just have no idea on him
claimed to be hard townreading chad due to "personal bias" in #1191 so i doubt hydro is partnered with chad off of that alone
pulsar512b
back & forth reading through her iso and i'd see a post that gutread scum followed by a post that seemed townie multiple times. i read through some of the game she played with AG as a partner and her presence was different than it is here, in the sense that she hard avoided game talk early on and literally just chatted. despite still being somewhat present here, she airs a few game thoughts and there's posts like #1631 & #1636 where i'm like... is this even something you'd see written about a partner that's being bussed? defending AG on the grounds of being "inactive" is weird i guess cause he didn't seem inactive to me, i'm just partial towards any defense of AG there and don't think it fits the obvious scum hellbus narrative
then #454 is killing me i can't tell if this is like a slip and she's townspewing celever or i'm just reading too far into it, or even possibly a partnered post cause what tf does it accomplish other than echo aired sentiments and why did she choose to double up on that to celever directly
ChadMD
chad is super different this game, anyone who's played with chad before can see this here and my first thought in trying to rationalize why he seems so uncomfortable in thread was that he rolled scum & he was unfamiliar with his partners or something or just didn't want to be mafia
reading back his posts feel so disconnected. #2340 can be burned up, #687 might just be straight up his way of handling having tmi on me, overall there's so much less than i expected to see from him and like two posts max that i thought broke slightly townie in his full iso. didn't want him shot day 1 for reasons, now would be a good time to ko as there's been no improvement
Thunder~BALLZ
haven't had any high raised red flags with tibbz, #1922 is the one post that stood out to me cause it reads like he may have been informed about ag flipping mafia but aside from that he's just whatever. i don't want tbz shot either beause he's tbz, or because i think his alignment will become more evident soon enough
you can decide which one is the truth for yourself...
master oden
treatment of ag reads like a bus reading it back cause of how strong the stance was, but that's the one major downside and the most of the rest of his posting is so gutsy if he's mafia. felt like this slot was town day 1, after catching up on him i'm still leaning that way but he fell off just a touch in comparison to his opening day. still someone i'm comfortable saying we don't shoot here, and if it wasn't for the dumb ag thing i'd probably clear him
JALMONT (ZippyDoo200)
in a disturbing twist of events, this is now my top town slot since i'm struggling to make sense of a zippy/ag partnership ever existing given zippy's approach to ag's slot, and the way he defended ag looks like overconfident villager reading back knowing ag was scum now. i'd read that end of day over a thousand times and still think zippy was mafia sticking his neck out for ag due to being informed that ag was town, but now that ag's flipped mafia it's reversed that and i can see where i began to confbias here
jalmont entry is reinforcing this so far, and this should be a positive change for that slot i'd hope
Flyhn
should just be town, was the fire before the fuel for the AG vote and planted on it which i see more likely to be a cause for mafia to bus as opposed to flyhn bussing himself. there's a level of depth to a few of his thoughts that isn't easily faked, #2067 is an example of this, and in general it tends to not be his larger posts that make me feel anything but instead posts similar to that one where it just feels like you can see the gears turning when reading
the one drawback is that there's some busywork in his recap posts that doesn't mold into any analysis, but i know some players prefer to do this sort of thing to organize thoughts so i don't have any glaring issues with it beyond thinking there's more than needs to be there
Flyhn your iso has virtually no filler so it's funny to read your answer to me in #98
Texas Cloverleaf
looking back he has some serious 180s in his reads like with realiti and pulsar, and they appear fairly reactionary which is more of a positive than negative when you look at surrounding context for both. should probably be once bitten, twice shy here considering i hard tr'd him last time we played together and he was mafia, i just find myself nodding my head to several of his posts and agreeing with him more than basically anyone
then his progression on me from sr to tl to sr does not seem agenda'd... i had some internal worries at first that him switching his read to tl on me during day 1 was a convenience thing due to me finding his posting townie and that it'd suddenly be viable to keep me around, but then he switched back to a scumread when my stance on him hasn't even changed so i have a hard time seeing the mafia incentive there unless he thinks i'm a viable mislim
Texas Cloverleaf i don't see things from the same lens as you in #2,227 though. mafia definitely didn't care about saving AG there, so "not having enough to make a tie" doesn't matter in this case. i think i understand what you're trying to get at, it just doesn't hold water in my eyes
Whydon
i want him in the game cause he's whydon, but i'm mildly afraid of wolfsiding again since my ego's bent up atm. #858 is the sole game related post i could find from him, and it's a null read on flyhn which doesn't say much. without anything else here it's impossible to get an idea, would expect maybe a little more effort as mafia but i've seen him troll as both alignments
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towncore is jalmont, realiti, flyhn and secondary additions would be oj, texas
if i had gun and had to instant shoot right now, i'd shoot chad here. if aiming for a likely AG busser, then tommy
sidenote that i'm working long hours right now and so it's tough for me to be active during weekdays, so if i wind up becoming an uncertain poe slot then please give me gun tonight or some day heading into a weekend vs during the weekdays cause i won't be able to parse enough before making a shot then. this game should be pretty solvable regardless, and ag flipping mafia was best case scenario due to day 1 dynamics
HydrogenHydreigon
the insistence on stating when he's leaving & arrived to thread is strange, lol. it's not that out of left field if this is in the same vein of him saying gm all the time in eimm, but like in general i think that sort of thread approach breaks slightly more mafia that feels the need to cough up content. there's nothing standout that makes hydro appear scummy to me though, and he falls somewhere close to whydon for me in that i just have no idea on him
claimed to be hard townreading chad due to "personal bias" in #1191 so i doubt hydro is partnered with chad off of that alone
pulsar512b
back & forth reading through her iso and i'd see a post that gutread scum followed by a post that seemed townie multiple times. i read through some of the game she played with AG as a partner and her presence was different than it is here, in the sense that she hard avoided game talk early on and literally just chatted. despite still being somewhat present here, she airs a few game thoughts and there's posts like #1631 & #1636 where i'm like... is this even something you'd see written about a partner that's being bussed? defending AG on the grounds of being "inactive" is weird i guess cause he didn't seem inactive to me, i'm just partial towards any defense of AG there and don't think it fits the obvious scum hellbus narrative
then #454 is killing me i can't tell if this is like a slip and she's townspewing celever or i'm just reading too far into it, or even possibly a partnered post cause what tf does it accomplish other than echo aired sentiments and why did she choose to double up on that to celever directly
ChadMD
chad is super different this game, anyone who's played with chad before can see this here and my first thought in trying to rationalize why he seems so uncomfortable in thread was that he rolled scum & he was unfamiliar with his partners or something or just didn't want to be mafia
reading back his posts feel so disconnected. #2340 can be burned up, #687 might just be straight up his way of handling having tmi on me, overall there's so much less than i expected to see from him and like two posts max that i thought broke slightly townie in his full iso. didn't want him shot day 1 for reasons, now would be a good time to ko as there's been no improvement
Thunder~BALLZ
haven't had any high raised red flags with tibbz, #1922 is the one post that stood out to me cause it reads like he may have been informed about ag flipping mafia but aside from that he's just whatever. i don't want tbz shot either beause he's tbz, or because i think his alignment will become more evident soon enough
you can decide which one is the truth for yourself...
master oden
treatment of ag reads like a bus reading it back cause of how strong the stance was, but that's the one major downside and the most of the rest of his posting is so gutsy if he's mafia. felt like this slot was town day 1, after catching up on him i'm still leaning that way but he fell off just a touch in comparison to his opening day. still someone i'm comfortable saying we don't shoot here, and if it wasn't for the dumb ag thing i'd probably clear him
JALMONT (ZippyDoo200)
in a disturbing twist of events, this is now my top town slot since i'm struggling to make sense of a zippy/ag partnership ever existing given zippy's approach to ag's slot, and the way he defended ag looks like overconfident villager reading back knowing ag was scum now. i'd read that end of day over a thousand times and still think zippy was mafia sticking his neck out for ag due to being informed that ag was town, but now that ag's flipped mafia it's reversed that and i can see where i began to confbias here
jalmont entry is reinforcing this so far, and this should be a positive change for that slot i'd hope
Flyhn
should just be town, was the fire before the fuel for the AG vote and planted on it which i see more likely to be a cause for mafia to bus as opposed to flyhn bussing himself. there's a level of depth to a few of his thoughts that isn't easily faked, #2067 is an example of this, and in general it tends to not be his larger posts that make me feel anything but instead posts similar to that one where it just feels like you can see the gears turning when reading
the one drawback is that there's some busywork in his recap posts that doesn't mold into any analysis, but i know some players prefer to do this sort of thing to organize thoughts so i don't have any glaring issues with it beyond thinking there's more than needs to be there
Flyhn your iso has virtually no filler so it's funny to read your answer to me in #98
Texas Cloverleaf
looking back he has some serious 180s in his reads like with realiti and pulsar, and they appear fairly reactionary which is more of a positive than negative when you look at surrounding context for both. should probably be once bitten, twice shy here considering i hard tr'd him last time we played together and he was mafia, i just find myself nodding my head to several of his posts and agreeing with him more than basically anyone
then his progression on me from sr to tl to sr does not seem agenda'd... i had some internal worries at first that him switching his read to tl on me during day 1 was a convenience thing due to me finding his posting townie and that it'd suddenly be viable to keep me around, but then he switched back to a scumread when my stance on him hasn't even changed so i have a hard time seeing the mafia incentive there unless he thinks i'm a viable mislim
Texas Cloverleaf i don't see things from the same lens as you in #2,227 though. mafia definitely didn't care about saving AG there, so "not having enough to make a tie" doesn't matter in this case. i think i understand what you're trying to get at, it just doesn't hold water in my eyes
Whydon
i want him in the game cause he's whydon, but i'm mildly afraid of wolfsiding again since my ego's bent up atm. #858 is the sole game related post i could find from him, and it's a null read on flyhn which doesn't say much. without anything else here it's impossible to get an idea, would expect maybe a little more effort as mafia but i've seen him troll as both alignments
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towncore is jalmont, realiti, flyhn and secondary additions would be oj, texas
if i had gun and had to instant shoot right now, i'd shoot chad here. if aiming for a likely AG busser, then tommy
sidenote that i'm working long hours right now and so it's tough for me to be active during weekdays, so if i wind up becoming an uncertain poe slot then please give me gun tonight or some day heading into a weekend vs during the weekdays cause i won't be able to parse enough before making a shot then. this game should be pretty solvable regardless, and ag flipping mafia was best case scenario due to day 1 dynamics
it might be cause i'm exhausted but i'm not sure what you're asking here
like is chad a "serious" mafia player traditionally?
I m here now hi
what the hell makes you think that mafia whydon comes storming into thread with a pitchfork going "texas scum" day 2 when all he's done this game is sit there
Am I not needed
Ok bye
thank you, great talk
i mean the thing is like what are hydros reads. do you know cause i dont
let's throw darts at a board
i want to know if chad is the sort of guy who takes mafia seriously in general. someone who plays in the "champs" and on different sites is someone i'd consider a serious player. and usually serious players want to flex and show off so it's kind of weird if he's that sort of guy if he's not doing that
in any case i haven't heard why we shouldn't just pick from the lhf other than the fact that we want to at least hit mafia rn and optimize psy's presence. but if we have nothing i'd rather just get those slots out of the way with asap. we can't afford to be confused about those guys in an end game scenario
in any case i haven't heard why we shouldn't just pick from the lhf other than the fact that we want to at least hit mafia rn and optimize psy's presence. but if we have nothing i'd rather just get those slots out of the way with asap. we can't afford to be confused about those guys in an end game scenario
im torn cause pulsar was very unsubtle last game when it came to how she treated her partner especially in a high stress situation but im also like does she just blatantly do the same thing twice. that + other facts are whats keeping me away from suspecting her