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Most Generation PRNG Help / Information

Discussion in 'Wi-Fi' started by mingot, Mar 16, 2009.

  1. mccalas

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    If you go to options-> speed -> turbo, and change preferences to run in the background and just leave it running, it's not that bad. Took 2 or 3 days for me to get to 176Million.

    Or you can RNG your TID/SID again, and if you don't save/reload, your TID becomes your starting seed. Way easier to hit high frames that way.
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  2. graymonkey0

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    So I haven't RNG'd in ages, but just guessing from the threads there's no RNG process in Gen6?
  3. Unknown Warrior

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    Pseudo-RNG may be possible with emulator, but that's still very far off and quite uncertain as seeds seem to require nanosecond precision.
    So for all intents and purposes: no.
  4. Mega Metal

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    What method do I use for RNGing the Snorlax blocking Route 11 in HeartGold and SoulSilver? I'm trying to watch bearfan's video and I don't know what the Snorlax would be considered as.
  5. Skymin_Flower

    Skymin_Flower It's Seed Flare time.

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    http://www.smogon.com/ingame/rng/dpphgss_rng_part2

    It is not one of the Method 1 encounters, so therefore it would be Method K : Stationary
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  6. graymonkey0

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    That's too bad. Are gen4 rng's still in demand?
  7. Skymin_Flower

    Skymin_Flower It's Seed Flare time.

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    A few, the majority of them are because of Defog though. The pentagon rule really kills a lot of previous generation Pokemon demand :\
  8. graymonkey0

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    Huh, that's the first I've seen of that rule lol, haven't really been following the scene closely. That's interesting. Unfortunate, kinda got the itch to RNG again, but if it's pointless and not feasible to use them in newer gens, kinda ruins doing it.
  9. Skymin_Flower

    Skymin_Flower It's Seed Flare time.

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    You should go for it, but if you want to trade, just make sure you are RNGing things that are unavailable in pentagon form (for example, Defog Zapdos). Casuals + Battle Maison runs (which don't have the pentagon rule) are still a thing after all :)
  10. Mega Metal

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    If you use the PokeGear for the PokeFlute in HGSS, does the PokeFlute advance the frame by 1 or is it random? Because I missed my frame by three trying to catch the Snorlax and I'm wondering if it's because of the use of the PokeFlute or if was because I had a random station (Pokemon Music) on that messed the frame up.
  11. Edu

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    But there ways to see the actual RNGs states...
  12. Misdreavus

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    Has anyone on here RNG'd the WISHMKR Jirachi on a retail cart?
  13. DragonLord7946

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    So I've recently downloaded the latest version of RNG Reporter (9.96.6) and I wanted to restart my HG game to use cute charm in it. The problem is that whenever I go to Pandora's Box for 4th Generation it no longer works and brings me up to Black and White and Black and White 2 and tells me to create a profile. I have a specific TID that I want to use for HG but I can't seem to get the SID that gives me the correct PID for the seed (for Timid nature). :/ I've tried searching for a previous build that supports Pandora's Box for 4th Generation but all of the links have either been expired or no longer work. Can anyone upload/post a previous version of RNG Reporter that supports 4th generation Pandora's Box for me? Thanks!
  14. shiny finder

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    The current version still supports the 4th gen Pandora's box. Just create a profile with random values (all 0s for example) so you stop getting the error message. Everything should work fine after that.
  15. DragonLord7946

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    It does! Thank you so much!
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  16. Umbreonage

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    So I'm RNGing for an ID/SID in HeartGold that I want to eventually use for a shiny 31/31/31/x/31/31 Ho-oh. In the on-site guide, it says that when searching for a PID to make shiny in Time Finder, to always set the method to Method 1. But Ho-oh is Method K, as are many other pokemon. Why set it to Method 1? Shouldn't I be searching for spreads under Method K? Am I going to get a spread I can use for Method K pokemon by doing it this way?
  17. Buckert

    Buckert Obsessive Collecting Disorder

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    Correct, but here you are RNG abusing the save file, the TID/SID combo, and that's what you need the Method 1 for. Once the TID/SID combo is RNG abused for a chosen PID, you can use Method K to RNG abuse the Pokémon.
  18. Umbreonage

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    Ok, thank you! So what this process does is set certain combos of IVs/nature as inherently shiny, regardless of eventual method of encounter, and then the different methods are a later thing for figuring out how to make that preset spread show up? Am I understanding correctly?
  19. Luxpluff91

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    More or less - you'll be able to get your shiny spread using Methods 1/K Sationary, but if you're going for a wild Pokémon (Method K Wild/Surfing/Fishing), you may be unable to obtain your target Pokémon with the desired spread because of encounter slots.
  20. Mattapod

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    is/has anyone been able to get rngreporter to work on a mac? particularly using crossover? OR been able to successfully use pprng to find and rng a tid/sid combo in HGSS?
  21. lollete

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    Hi, I have a question. I'm trying to get a shiny starter Torchic from Ruby (because of simpler TID/SID generation) on emulator.
    The frames generated from RNG Reporter are relative to in-game frame counter, the lua script I found uses vba frame couter.
    Does anyone know Ruby/Sapphire RAM address for in-game frame counter? Here it isn't reported.
  22. lollete

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    Nope, it was right. I was using a ROM with a lame intro which delayed frames.
  23. LegoFigure11

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    ~ moved to this thread because I figured that it was more appropriate here rather than the 5th gen thread ~
    I also have this issue with Gen 4 and Gen 5 Entralink (so basically anything that has a delay involved) on emu, and it is a rather annoying one to overcome (if anyone has a better solution then please feel free to share it).
    There are a few things that you'll need:
    1. A lua script that gives you your initial seed
    2. This spreadsheet
    3. Patience
    Once you've got all that together, pick a seed. I generally find that ones beginning with 4, 5, 6 or 7 give the most reliable results, but you're welcome to try whatever. For the purpose of this, I will use the seed shown in the image below (hide tags because big)
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    So I boot up my game using the movie function and hit my delay as usual. All seems normal until I get to the screen where I press "Continue", and my Initial Seed changes!
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    This is where the spreadsheet that I linked you to earlier comes in handy. Take the first 4 digits of the Seed in the Time finder and put them in cell B1, then take the first 4 digits of the seed that you actually hit (yes, you actually have to press 'Continue', don't just use what it says in the "Next Frame" part of the lua script),and put them into cell B2.
    The speadsheet should return something like this:
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    Replace the first 4 digits of whatever was in your Seed to Time finder with the 4 digits that the Spreadsheet gives you in cell B3 (if it gives you more than 4 digits then that seed is unusable), and use that as your new initial seed.
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    With a little bit of luck, boot up your game using your new initial seed, hit your delay, and you'll hit your original intended seed once you press 'Continue'!!
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    The rest of the RNG can then be completed regularly.
    This won't work for every seed so it may take some trial and error, but if you persist and try many different seeds you will get there eventually. Good Luck!
    Last edited: Dec 15, 2016
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  24. Unknown Warrior

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    So with pseudo-RNG revealed for Gen VII.
    Is there a reliable way to determine your egg seed in SM that doesn't require PkHex or hatching 127 Magikarp? I don't have access to the former or the time (read: patience) for the latter.
  25. shiny finder

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    Afaik, no. Considering the whole thing is still in a fledgling status and everyone still has questions, something might turn up given some time. This thread/guide seems to be actively maintained, so I'd keep an eye on that (or the Japanese researchers directly since they seem to be spearheading the whole thing).

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