Manaphy doesn't get Hydro.
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I didn't read every page but from what i read nobody said anything about smeargle, like i was thinking Megahorn, Gunk Shot, Hone Claws/Coil, Filler---> Mega Beedrill
Or the Likes of Nasty Plot, Hurricane, Zap Cannon, Filler (Hydro Pump, Focus Miss, Blizzard, Inferno/Fire Blast, Boomburst, other)------>Pidgeot and I'm surprised I didnt some other things to
Or the Likes of Nasty Plot, Hurricane, Zap Cannon, Filler (Hydro Pump, Focus Miss, Blizzard, Inferno/Fire Blast, Boomburst, other)------>Pidgeot and I'm surprised I didnt some other things to
smeagles banned :(
Huh. Odd. You'd think a Legendary Water Type would learn Hydro Pump. Then again, there's Kyurem with no Physical Ice Move.
I think Lopunny will be pretty cool in here:
Arcanine @ Lopunnite
Ability: Intimidate
252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Close Combat
- ExtremeSpeed
- Double Edge / Facade / Frustration
- Will-o-Wisp / Morning Sun
With an HP boost MegaLopunny has better bulk than Landorus (Helped by Intimidate) and with ExtremeSpeed it can afford to go Adamant, and not be revenged killed by Talonflame so easily (with rocks up it always OHKO). ES means you don't need Return / Frustration so much and you can either go for Double Edge for power or Facade to make yourself into a status absorber of sorts. As usual Lopunny's last slot can vary. Will-o-Wisp is unexpected and it can surprise many common switch-ins such as Landorus-T while Morning Sun helps with longevity (but is illegal with Double Edge, so there's that). You can also use Flash Fire & Flare Blitz to give you a third Pseudo-STAB and a good switch in to fire attacks when you haven't Megavolved yet).
Arcanine @ Lopunnite
Ability: Intimidate
252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Close Combat
- ExtremeSpeed
- Double Edge / Facade / Frustration
- Will-o-Wisp / Morning Sun
With an HP boost MegaLopunny has better bulk than Landorus (Helped by Intimidate) and with ExtremeSpeed it can afford to go Adamant, and not be revenged killed by Talonflame so easily (with rocks up it always OHKO). ES means you don't need Return / Frustration so much and you can either go for Double Edge for power or Facade to make yourself into a status absorber of sorts. As usual Lopunny's last slot can vary. Will-o-Wisp is unexpected and it can surprise many common switch-ins such as Landorus-T while Morning Sun helps with longevity (but is illegal with Double Edge, so there's that). You can also use Flash Fire & Flare Blitz to give you a third Pseudo-STAB and a good switch in to fire attacks when you haven't Megavolved yet).
Why not use Lucario, who can also use Close Combat and Extremespeed, but also packs Swords Dance?
Ability: Aura Break
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe OR 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 SpD
Adamant Nature
- Dragon Dance
- Earthquake
- Extreme Speed
- Return
or you could use this and be SO much better. (better bulk, better setup, arguably better typing and speed)
this is banned so it does not matter.
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but then you realize glalite is ban
eh true, my bad.
Edit: something relevant zygarde can do:
Zygarde @ Garchompite
Ability: Aura Break
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Dragon Dance
- Outrage
- Earthquake
- Extreme Speed/ Stone Edge
extra stuff:
Infernape @ Cameruptite
Ability: Blaze
EVs: 248 HP / 8 Atk / 252 SpD
Careful Nature
- Flare Blitz
- Slack Off
- Bulk Up
- Earthquake
Infernape @ Cameruptite
Ability: Blaze
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 SpD
Adamant Nature
- Slack Off
- Flare Blitz
- Earthquake
- U-turn
Infernape is great for anyone who wants to use camerupt or really ANY fire or fighting type mega thanks to it's amazing movepool.
also this:
Scrafty @ Medichamite
Ability: Intimidate
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Dragon Dance / fake out
- High Jump Kick
- Ice Punch
- Thunder Punch / zen headbutt
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Shedinja @ Sablenite
Ability: Wonder Guard ---> Magic Bounce
-Swords Dance
-Baton Pass
-Confuse Ray
-Protect
This is just gimmicky enough that I think it might work. Or just fail. Miserably. At the very least you can only be hurt by a few things.
Ability: Wonder Guard ---> Magic Bounce
-Swords Dance
-Baton Pass
-Confuse Ray
-Protect
This is just gimmicky enough that I think it might work. Or just fail. Miserably. At the very least you can only be hurt by a few things.
And then you realize that the second you MEvo you have 1 HP and no Wonder Guard.
Mewtwo and their mega forms are banned.
The banlist just said "Ubers", and I'm pretty sure that an item isn't considered Ubers, because I can enter any battle with a Caterpie holding a Mewtwonite X, but okay then.
EV
Banned deucer.
Items are considered Ubers like Kangaskhanite, Gengarite, Mawilite, Salamenceite, Lucarionite. Any mega stones belonging to Uber Pokemon are also considered Uber, like Mewtwonite X & Y, Blazikenite.
I don't know if TI already discussed this with TEG or whether he himself saw it, but let me leave this suggestion here.
I made an OM Submission which turned out to be quite similar to MR. However, one little idea there might very well fit in here.
Instead of the exact Stat allocation, which would obviously create nonsense like a Caterpie suddenly becoming a Mega Alakazam with spectacular Stats, why not allow only the Stat boosts pertaining to the stone?
In simpler terms,
Caterpie + Beedrillite ≠ Beedril-Mega's Stats
Caterpie + Beedrillite = Caterpie's Shitty Stats + 70 Attack - 20 Special Defense + 50 Speed.
At first, I was a little grumpy about my OM idea being rejected. But it does fit in here and would make this good meta even better.
If this works for everyone, happy to help!
I made an OM Submission which turned out to be quite similar to MR. However, one little idea there might very well fit in here.
Instead of the exact Stat allocation, which would obviously create nonsense like a Caterpie suddenly becoming a Mega Alakazam with spectacular Stats, why not allow only the Stat boosts pertaining to the stone?
In simpler terms,
Caterpie + Beedrillite ≠ Beedril-Mega's Stats
Caterpie + Beedrillite = Caterpie's Shitty Stats + 70 Attack - 20 Special Defense + 50 Speed.
At first, I was a little grumpy about my OM idea being rejected. But it does fit in here and would make this good meta even better.
If this works for everyone, happy to help!
sounds cool but form a coding standpoint megas would have to count as boosts to stat total instead of alternate forms.
But this would also solve the HP problem.
That is literally the first thing I posted in this thread, and FlameUser64 submitted it after we hashed out details/he determined what crazy overpowered nonsense existed and needed to go. Also it derailed the thread.
Interesting how this post gets a like from The Immortal despite the fact that my OM submission (which is exactly this) is still "on hold".
Also interesting that instead of approving my submission, The Immortal flat out rejects my submission and then says that modifying this would be better. Isn't that kinda pointless?
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EV
Banned deucer.
Just so the rest of the community knows, we decided to let FlameUser64 post a successor OM to Mega REvolution. It should be up soon.
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