Project Lure that threat [Week 37: SubToxic Mantine]

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Reserving audino I guess


Audino @ Audinite
Ability: Regenerator
EVs: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Modest Nature
- Calm Mind
- Dazzling Gleam
- Fire Blast
- Surf

Tbh, I find offensive audino a much better lure for the DD set, because it generally uses the wish variant as set-up bait to sweep. Still nabs that sweet ass 2hko on the def variant that can set-up sr on it.
252+ SpA Audino Surf vs. 252 HP / 240 SpD Eviolite Rhydon: 224-268 (54.1 - 64.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
 
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Kangaskhan @ Silk Scarf
Ability: Scrappy
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Double-Edge
- Fake Out
- Aqua Tail
- Sucker Punch

Pretty standard lure that works well on Normal Spam to clear the way for something like Swellow or Tauros. Aqua Tail manages to 2HKO compared to Earthquake which is only a 4HKO.

252+ Atk Kangaskhan Aqua Tail vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Eviolite Rhydon: 200-236 (48.3 - 57%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock
 

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Garbodor @ Life Orb
Ability: Aftermath
EVs: 4 Atk / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Hasty Nature
- Giga Drain
- Gunk Shot
- Focus Blast
- Spikes / Toxic Spikes

Garbodor is not only known for its defensive capabilities but also for its ability to lure stuff with its surprisingly decent special movepool. If you manage to pin it down on the switch, the kill is yours.

252 SpA Life Orb Garbodor Giga Drain vs. 252 HP / 240 SpD Eviolite Rhydon: 224-265 (54.1 - 64%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
 

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Tauros @ Life Orb
Ability: Sheer Force
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpA / 252 Spe
Naive Nature
- Rock Climb
- Fire Blast
- Earthquake
- Iron Tail
Not really a new lure but rhydon is normally a great tauros check but with iron tail, asuming you hit twice, It gets 2hko'd after a bit of prior damage like with 1 layer of spikes. Rhydon cant ohko back so you have some chances to hit 2 iron tails.
252 Atk Life Orb Sheer Force Tauros Iron Tail vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Eviolite Rhydon: 177-208 (42.7 - 50.2%) -- 0.4% chance to 2HKO
252 Atk Life Orb Sheer Force Tauros Iron Tail vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Eviolite Rhydon: 177-208 (42.7 - 50.2%) -- 92.6% chance to 2HKO after 1 layer of Spikes
16+ Atk Rhydon Earthquake vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Tauros: 157-186 (53.9 - 63.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
 

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Liepard @ Dread Plate
Ability: Prankster
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpA / 252 Spe
Naive Nature
- Knock Off
- Grass Knot
- Encore
- filler

Knock + Grass Knot always kills factoring in Eviolite removal, and otherwise Rhydon's a lot of teams' main Liepard switchin even though it dislikes getting its Eviolite removed.
 

Klinklang @ Leftovers
Ability: Clear Body
EVs: 80 HP / 252 Atk / 176 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Magnet Rise
- Gear Grind
- Toxic
- Substitute / Magic Coat

Earthquake now does 0 with magnet rise and Rock Blast doesn't even break a Sub, while Gear Grind 3HKO. Speed EVs to outspeed +Speed Base 80s and neutral nature base 90s, though max speed is better. Toxic is for the things you can't beat like Gastro and Mantine. Overall, unless DD Don, Rhydon loses to this.
 

Magmortar @ Assault Vest
Ability: Vital Spirit
EVs: 64 HP / 252 SpA / 192 Spe
Modest Nature
- Hidden Power [Grass]
- Fire Blast
- Thunderbolt
- Earthquake

Something that has worked recently against 1st turn SR Rhydons.
HP Grass does 57.9 - 68.5% to a Rhydon unless it carries a weird ass set (252HP 252spDef)
Magmortar has a higher base speed then Rhydon so it 2hkos.
Not exactly the best lure but it gets the job done.

EDIT-(I have spoken to PursuitOfHappiny, and he informed me that HP Grass is standard on Magmortar (which I had no idea actually.) I'm new to the competitive scene when it comes to NU and actually using proper sets. Still, you'd be surprised how many people switch in Rhydon on Magmortar when I play ladder.)
 
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Regirock aka BIG. BOY. MAN.



Regirock @ Weakness Policy
Ability: Clear Body
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Rock Polish
- Drain Punch
- Earthquake

- Stone Edge

Spdef don does alot, over 50, but you can just dpunch your health back or eq for a guaranteed 2hko. On top of that, you can rp to potentially sweep, which already exceeds the purpose of this lol. And while yes, rp regi isnt a great set, the idea was to lure don successfully, and that it does. Also peeps have already taken the better lures :(
 
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Since we got a BUNCH of lures this week, let's move on to the next threat!
This week's winners were:
Blast's Liepard Set
PrinceLucian's Grass Knot Kecleon
erisia's Energy Ball Defensive Mesprit
Congrats.

This week's threat is:

Garbodor @ Rocky Helmet
Ability: Aftermath
EVs: 252 HP / 200 Def / 56 Spe
Impish Nature
- Spikes
- Toxic Spikes
- Gunk Shot
- Focus Blast

Yes, I know, we already had Garbodor as a threat. Metagame changed since then, so yeah, find new lures!​
Submissions end on Sunday.
 
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Hitmonchan @ Life Orb
Ability: Iron Fist
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Drain Punch
- Ice Punch
- Earthquake
- Mach Punch

Hah, haha, heh... yeh this thing lures garb like a treat; I mean, come on, what garb doesn't come in on chan to get damage off?
252+ Atk Life Orb Hitmonchan Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 160+ Def Garbodor: 239-283 (65.6 - 77.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
 
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reserv lilli

Lilligant (F) @ Kebia Berry
Ability: Chlorophyll
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Sleep Powder
- Quiver Dance
- Giga Drain
- Dream Eater

252+ SpA Lilligant Psychic vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Garbodor: 252-298 (69.2 - 81.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock
100BP Psychic instead of Dream Eater as it oddly enough doesn't exist on calc.

+1 252+ SpA Lilligant Psychic vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Garbodor: 376-444 (103.2 - 121.9%) -- guaranteed OHKO

0 Atk Garbodor Gunk Shot vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Kebia Berry Lilligant: 156-184 (55.5 - 65.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO


Garbodors usually can check Lilli quite well, but not with Dream Eater as it 2hko's normal Garbodors, and Ohko's with +1

It can also tank 1 Gunk Shot if Sleep Powder misses.
 
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Vileplume @ Black Sludge
Ability: Effect Spore
EVs: 204 HP / 252 SpA / 52 Spe
Modest Nature
- Giga Drain
- Sludge Bomb
- Hidden Power Ground
- Moonlight

Garbodor is usually a pretty safe switch into Vileplume, as it's bulky enough to tank its STAB attacks and set up lots of Spikes if desired, while also being immune to Sludge Bomb's poison chance. However, offensive Vileplume has a very good chance to 2HKO this Garbodor set with Hidden Power Ground after Stealth Rock, while not risking a similar 2HKO from Gunk Shot thanks to Black Sludge. Hidden Power Fire is much more common so even if the opponent knows you're running offensive Vileplume, they may well leave Garbodor in anyways. Obviously don't switch this into Garbodor or the lure will be ruined.

252+ SpA Vileplume Hidden Power Ground vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Garbodor: 152-180 (41.7 - 49.4%) -- 83.6% chance to 2HKO after Stealth Rock
0 Atk Garbodor Gunk Shot vs. 204 HP / 0 Def Vileplume: 142-168 (41.5 - 49.1%) -- 16.4% chance to 2HKO after Stealth Rock and Black Sludge recovery
 
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Samurott @ Mystic Water
Ability: Torrent
EVs: 252 Atk/ 4 SpA / 252 Spe
Naughty Nature
- Swords Dance
- Aqua Jet
- Megahorn
- Hydro Pump

This is an interesting set that I came up with that lures a whole host of physically defensive mons, but since the subject is only Garb ig I'll just talk about that.

There are two different ways you can lure Garb with this. You can click SD at some point in the battle and bait it out then 2hko with Hydro (4 SpA Mystic Water Samurott Hydro Pump vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Garbodor: 180-213 (49.4 - 58.5%) -- 98.8% chance to 2HKO) or you can SD on Garb then live a Gunk, 2hko with Hydro and abuse +2 Torrent AJet (provided rocks are up/minor chip damage).

This set is super cool and I recommend you try it. For a full list of things that this can do, check out my post in the Creative/Underrated sets thread here!
 

PrinceLucian

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Shiftry @ Life Orb
Ability: Chlorophyll
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpA / 252 Spe
Naughty/Lonely Nature
- Knock Off
- Leaf Storm
- Sucker Punch
- Explosion

-Knock off on garbodor switch and explode, preventing it from setting any hazards.Not much to say,one of best lures for offense.

252+ Atk Life Orb Shiftry Explosion vs. 252 HP / 160+ Def Garbodor: 289-341 (79.3 - 93.6%) -- 43.8% chance to OHKO after Stealth Rock
 

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Zangoose @ Toxic Orb
Ability: Toxic Boost
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
Adamant / Jolly Nature
- Facade
- Close Combat
- Knock Off
- Quick Attack

Regardless of how much health Zangoose would end up losing against a Garbo switch-in, this is more or less a surefire way to "magnetize" the opponent's Garbodor in order to deal with this nuke of a Pokemon, even if they see it coming. If you can Knock Off Garbo on the switch, especially prior to being poisoned, you can minimize the damage that much more as you KO it the turn after.
 

Cheryl.

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Leafeon @ Starf Berry
Ability: Chlorophyll
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Swords Dance
- Leaf Blade
- Knock Off
- Natural Gift

Starf Berry Leafeon is a pretty cool Poison lure that wrecks Garbodor after a SD boost by surprising it with a Psychic-typed Natural Gift. As said before, this lure also works for other Poison-types like Weezing, making it a good partner for Pokemon that can struggle with these threats, such as Kangaskhan.

+2 252 Atk Starf Berry Leafeon Natural Gift (100 BP Psychic) vs. 252 HP / 200+ Def Garbodor: 332-392 (91.2 - 107.6%) -- 50% chance to OHKO
 
Thanks to everyone for their submissions. Winners this week are:
Yogibears' Earthquake Hitmonchan
Ov3r Ac3' Dream Eater Lilligant (Shadestep)
Cheryl.'s Starf Berry Natural Gift Leafeon
Grats!

The new threat is...



Malamar @ Leftovers
Ability: Contrary
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Atk / 252 SpD
Careful Nature
- Superpower
- Knock Off
- Rest
- Sleep Talk
Submissions end next Thursday.
 

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reserving rotom

Rotom @ Choice Specs
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Thunder
- Volt Switch
- Shadow Ball
- Signal Beam

This rotom set is pretty darn sick and doesn't just lure malamar in. its able to hit things like skunk and av mag/lant rlly hard n stuff. also ohko's malamar after rocks :3

Shoutouts to TTFTW for this set/idea :3
 
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Malamar @ Lum Berry
Ability: Contrary
EVs: 236 HP / 252 SpD / 20 Spe
Careful Nature
- Superpower
- Knock Off
- Rest
- Topsy-Turvy

Odd lure but a fun and not entirely bad one either for those who don't know what Topsy-Turvy does it swaps the opposing pokemons stat changes and Malamars signature move. Basically you are able to constantly boost up while stopping the opposing Malamars with ease
 
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Barbaracle @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Tough Claws
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Adamant / Jolly Nature
- Razor Shell
- Stone Edge
- Superpower
- X-Scissor

Malamar will almost always stay in and click Superpower versus Barb in fear of a potential Shell Smash, however with this lure you just click X-Scissor and KO it comfortably. Even if you're using Jolly Barb (the better nature) you can still OHKO without any prior damage.

252+ Atk Tough Claws Barbaracle X-Scissor vs. 252 HP / 4 Def Malamar: 476-564 (126.5 - 150%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252 Atk Tough Claws Barbaracle X-Scissor vs. 252 HP / 4 Def Malamar: 432-512 (114.8 - 136.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO
 

Cacturne @ Life Orb
Ability: Water Absorb
EVs: 252 Atk / 252 Spe / 4 SpD
Adamant / Lonely Nature
- Seed Bomb
- Sucker Punch
- Spikes / Dark Pulse
- Pin Missile / Fell Stinger

Usually Malamar can come in and obliterate Cacturne and a get free boost off it. However, if this cactus packs Pin Missile and Max Attack, it can lure in Malamar and OHKO it if it gets 3 hits or more. If you get unlucky and only get two, well you outspeed anyway, so just KO it! Another way you lure this thing is using the never used (thus never expected) move Fell Stinger. Fell Stinger is a near guaranteed 2HKO on a switch and you'll get a Swords Dance boost for it.

Calcs:
Pin Missile: 252+ Atk Life Orb Cacturne Pin Missile (3 hits) vs. 252 HP / 4 Def Malamar: 483-576 (128.4 - 153.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO

Fell Stinger: 252+ Atk Life Orb Cacturne Fell Stinger vs. 252 HP / 4 Def Malamar: 192-229 (51 - 60.9%) -- 90.6% chance to 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
 
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Lanturn @ Assault Vest
Ability: Volt Absorb
EVs: 252 SpA / 132 SpD / 124 Spe
Modest Nature
- Scald
- Volt Switch
- Ice Beam
- Signal Beam

So Malamar can easily switch on Scalds as it can Rest up or start setting up if it wants. However Signal Beam is a nice 2HKO on it and you outspeed Malamar aswell.

252+ SpA Lanturn Signal Beam vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Malamar: 220-260 (58.5 - 69.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
 

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Mantine @ Leftovers
Ability: Water Absorb
EVs: 248 HP / 196 Def / 64 SpA
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Scald
- Air Slash
- Defog
- Signal Beam

Love running random bug moves on mons. Anyways malamar can usually switch on predicted defogs and start setting up on mantine but with signal beam and a bit of invesment mantine beats malamar, being able to 2hko it with the mentioned move.

64+ SpA Mantine Signal Beam vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Malamar: 184-220 (48.9 - 58.5%) -- 62.5% chance to 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
 
hi, this week's winners are
MaroGod's topsy turvy malamar
Yogibears' signal beam rotom
~Eternally's x-scissor scarf barbaracle.
congrats!!!!

this week's threat is...


Aurorus @ Choice Specs
Ability: Refrigerate
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Hyper Voice
- Freeze-Dry
- Earth Power
- Psychic
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reserving rhydon


Rhydon @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Lightning Rod
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Earthquake
- Stone Edge
- Megahorn
- Ice Punch

yeah, ik it's dumb af lol; but it's fun and bops aurorus ezpz, along with luring mons like shiftry, colo, lanturn, mantine, etc.
252 Atk Rhydon Earthquake vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Aurorus: 428-506 (110.5 - 130.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO
 
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