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I've played a few battles, 7 wins and 5 losses and a DC that could go eithr way but should be mine. I was winning thx to a bit of freeze hax lol.

My worst loss resulted from a very strange set...or I guess not that strange. Offensive Download P2 with HP Fire. Led Ferro, so lol. Sent Azu out next, pretty much just gave up at that point cause I had nothing for it. Mence can't actually set up on +1 P2, Ice Beam ohkos.

I often find I want to bring Mence and Gengar, maybe a sash Gengar would be good for us. Really eases prediction when you don't know what to bring since it's pretty much guaranteed to take a hit.

I really like the moves on Mence-DE wouldn't work at all on this one and stuff. But everything else has lots of other options, what hav y'all been running? I don't really like Icy Wind on this Gengar, though it's great on sash. How would Sub do? Ran those moves on a Gengar in Kanto Classic and I did great.

I really don't like the evs on Rotom-h. SpD is important, but less HP makes it physically frail and the meta favors physical attackers. The Spe is fine, but 252 HP and 156 SpD still give the same chance to survive 2 Sludge Bombs from offensiv Mega Gengar, and give the same calcs with special attackers for the most part. Standard Psychic Cress still won't break a sub for instance.

Max HP gives a decent chance to survive CB Chomp's Outrage, and only dies to HJK from Mega Blaziken 6.3% of the time rather than 56.3%. I can't be a 100% sure max HP is better since that means more HP is used up for subs, but it's worth a thought.
 
I just got the team so I will ladder with it a bit today! Maybe its a good idea to list the six pokemon in a speed tier list so you can exactly see which pokemon they will outspeed and which not?
Alright, here goes:
Shamelessly copied from this thread.
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195: Max speed Talonflame
194: Max speed Weavile
192: Gengar-Mega
191: Max speed Greninja
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172: High speed Mega Salamence, max speed base 105s (Manectric, Lopunny)
170: Gengar
169: Max speed Garchomp
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145: Max speed base 80s
144: Salamence-Mega
143: Max speed base 78s (Mega Blastoise, Diggersby)
142: High speed base 90s (Kangaskhan)
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127: High speed base 75s (Mega Heracross, Mega Scizor)
124: Salamence, Max speed Tyranitar
123: Max speed base 60s (Aegislash), high speed Mega Tyranitar
122: High speed base 70s (Bisharp, Breloom, Cloyster)
121: 4 Speed base 100s (Zapdos)
119: Rotom-H
118: Max speed base 110s after one speed drop
116: 4 Speed base 95s (Gliscor, Arcanine, Drapion, Uxie)
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81: 4 Speed base 60s (Porygon2, Sylveon, Aegislash), min speed Cresselia
80: Porygon2
76: Paralyzed high speed Mega Blaziken after two Speed Boosts
71: 4 Speed base 50s (Azumarill, Mega Mawile)
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45: Min speed base 45s (Conkeldurr, Marowak, Mega Ampharos)
44: Min speed Dragalge
42: Ferrothorn
41: Paralyzed max speed base 100s, 4 speed base 20s (Ferrothorn, Mega Camerupt, Escavalier, Mega Sableye)

Hope this helps, didn't want to write all information down separately, so you get a c/p :)
I will get laddering too, maybe this evening, but I'm tired so that might not be the best idea right now...
 

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