Gen 3 [ADV] Numel [DONE]

[sleid]

[SET]
name: Special Wall
move 1: Earthquake
move 2: Fire Blast / Flamethrower
move 3: Rest
move 4: Sleep Talk
item: Leftovers / Chesto Berry
ability: Oblivious
nature: Sassy
evs: 252 HP / 4 SpA / 252 SpD

[SET COMMENTS]
Numel's typing gives it a niche to work as a special wall since it can switch into Koffing safely while also taking on two of the most powerful special attackers of the tier; Elekid and Growlithe. Numel can come in safely and OHKO both of these threats with STAB Earthquake while also being able to chunk offensive switch-ins like Rhyhorn. Fire Blast is its preferred Fire-type STAB move since it allows Numel to 2HKO Koffing and 3HKO Dustox. Flamethrower is an option with its better accuracy and greater PP since it still does well against the likes of Sunflora and Bayleef, but it fails to threaten Koffing and Dustox. RestTalk is the best recovery option to increase Numel's longevity. It's also worth mentioning that RestTalk gives Numel the ability to stall out Dustox in a 1v1 situation. Leftovers is preferred to rack up recovery against more passive opponents, while Chesto Berry works to give Numel the ability to keep threatening its enemies since being asleep can make it much more passive.

Numel performs best on balance teams looking for something to handle Electric- and Fire-types like Elekid and Growlithe. It pairs well with Snorunt since Numel can switch into the leads that can beat it like Cyndaquil, Elekid, and Spoink, while Spikes from Snorunt give it a greater chance to take down Dustox with a 2HKO. Special attackers benefit from Numel's ability to safely switch into Dustox and Grimer to wear them down. Fast attackers and setup sweepers like Croconaw and Aipom appreciate Numel's ability as a status absorber with its typing and RestTalk. With its horrible physical bulk, Numel needs support from Pokemon that resist Normal-types, like Rhyhorn, Nosepass, and Lileep, to take hits from Aipom and Pidgeotto. Koffing is a great partner because it can help with offensive foes like Rhyhorn and Cubone that can OHKO Numel with Earthquake. Water-types like Seaking and Staryu threaten Numel because they can stomach an Earthquake and OHKO back with their 4x effective Water moves, so support from special walls like Dustox and Castform are needed. Numel can be taken advantage of when asleep, making Delcatty a solid teammate that can help remedy this with Heal Bell.

[STRATEGY COMMENTS]
Other Options
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Numel can opt to run Toxic and Protect over RestTalk to take down Lileep, although it compromises its effectiveness to properly check its targets and act as a status absorber.
Rock Slide is also an option over Flamethrower to pick up the OHKO on Butterfree, but isn't preferred because Numel is then walled by Grass-types and Koffing.

Checks and Counters
===================

**Water-types**: Water-types like Seaking, Croconaw, and Staryu both come in safely on Numel and threaten to OHKO it with their 4x effective Water moves. Chinchou can do the same, although it has to be careful of coming in on an Earthquake.

**Water-type Coverage**: Pokemon like Cyndaquil, Magnemite, and Growlithe all have the potential to run Hidden Power Water to 2HKO Numel.

**Ground-types**: Rhyhorn and Cubone outspeed and OHKO Numel with Earthquake. However, Rhyhorn doesn't particularly enjoy being chunked by Numel's Earthquake when it tries to switch in.

**Physical Attackers**: Choice Band users like Aipom and Pidgeotto threaten to OHKO Numel with its weak physical bulk.

**Lileep**: Lileep can sit on Numel and stall it out if it's running Hidden Power Grass over Giga Drain.

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[SET]
name: Special Wall
move 1: Earthquake
move 2: Flamethrower
move 3: Rest
move 4: Sleep Talk
item: Leftovers
ability: Oblivious
nature: Sassy
evs: 252 HP / 4 SpA / 252 SpD

[SET COMMENTS]
Numel's typing gives it a niche to work as a special wall that can take on some of the most powerful special attackers of the tier, Elekid and Growlithe. Numel can come in safely and OHKO both of these threats with STAB Earthquake, while also being able to chunk offensive switch-ins like Rhyhorn. Flamethrower keeps it from not being entirely walled by Koffing, and hits the likes of Bayleef, Sunflora, and Butterfree super effectively. RestTalk makes sure it can check Elekid and Growlithe, and cure poison damage, helping it perform its job over the course of longer games. I recommend just saying that RestTalk gives Numel increased longevity, the rest is implied. Its It's also worth mentioning RestTalk gives Numel the ability to stall out Dustox in a 1v1 situation.

Numel best performs on balance teams looking for something to handle Electric- and Fire-types like Elekid and Growlithe. Special attackers benefit from Numel's ability to safely switch into Dustox and Grimer to wear them down. Fast attackers and setup sweepers like Croconaw and Aipom appreciate Numel's ability as a status absorber with its typing and RestTalk. With its horrible physical bulk, Numel needs support from physical walls like Rhyhorn and Lileep to take hits from Aipom and Pidgeotto. Koffing is worth mentioning because it can help with the aforementioned attackers as well as offensive Rhyhorn and Cubone who can OHKO Numel with Earthquake. Mention Rock-types as support against CB Normal-types, Koffing doesn't switch into them. Water-types like Seaking and Staryu threaten Numel because they can stomach an Earthquake and OHKO back with their 4x effective Water moves, so support from special walls like Dustox and Castform are needed.

[STRATEGY COMMENTS]
Other Options
=============

Numel has no other options (unless you want me to mention like ToxTect over RestTalk to wear down switch ins? although obviously this is not preferred.)

ToxTect is valid to target Lileep and also Delcatty somewhat. Mention how it suffers due to Numel's low bulk. Also mention Fire Blast and Rock Slide.

Checks and Counters
===================

**Water-types**: Water-types like Seaking and Staryu both come in safely on Numel and threaten to OHKO it with their 4x effective Water moves. Chinchou can do the same, although it has to be careful of coming in on an Earthquake.

**Ground-types**: Rhyhorn and Cubone outspeed and OHKO Numel with Earthquake. However, Rhyhorn doesn't particularly enjoy being chunked by Numel's own Earthquake when it tries to switch in.

**Physical Attackers**: Choice Band users like Aipom and Pidgeotto both threaten to OHKO Numel with its weak physical bulk.

**Lileep**: Lileep is able to sit on Numel and stall it out if it's running Hidden PoIwer Grass over Giga Drain. Doesn't Lileep endlessly sit on Numel regardless? It can always heal with Recover.

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[sleid]

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[SET]
name: Special Wall
move 1: Earthquake
move 2: Fire Blast / Flamethrower
move 3: Rest
move 4: Sleep Talk
item: Leftovers / Chesto Berry
ability: Oblivious
nature: Sassy
evs: 252 HP / 4 SpA / 252 SpD

[SET COMMENTS]
Numel's typing gives it a niche to work as a special wall that can take on some of the most powerful special attackers of the tier, Elekid and Growlithe. Numel can come in safely and OHKO both of these threats with STAB Earthquake, while also being able to chunk offensive switch-ins like Rhyhorn. Flamethrower keeps it from not being entirely walled by Koffing, and hits the likes of Bayleef, Sunflora, and Butterfree super effectively. RestTalk is the best recovery option to increase Numel's longevity. It's (AC) also worth mentioning RestTalk gives Numel the ability to stall out Dustox in a 1v1 situation.

Mention that its unique in the fact that it not only threatens those special attackers but it also threatens Koffing. This makes it incredibly difficult to safely switch into solidifying its niche as a Tank.

Fireblast is almost always better than Flamethrower because you want to threaten Koffing. Flamethrower threatens Koffing but fails to 2HKO iirc. Rewrite the Flamethrower sentence and mention how it can be used for more PP while still hitting Grass types like Bayleef and Sunflora but fails to threaten Koffing or Dustox.

Mention Oblivious and how it allows it to take advantage of lead Spoink. This may seem insignificant but it goes a long way.

Talk about Chesto Berry and how it helps Numel remain relevant since using rest can make Numel nowhere near as threatening.

Numel best performs on balance teams looking for something to handle Electric- and Fire-types like Elekid and Growlithe. Special attackers benefit from Numel's ability to safely switch into Dustox and Grimer to wear them down. Fast attackers and setup sweepers like Croconaw and Aipom appreciate Numel's ability as a status absorber with its typing and RestTalk. With its horrible physical bulk, Numel needs support from Pokemon that resist Normal-types physical walls like Rhyhorn, Nosepass, and Lileep to take hits from Aipom and Pidgeotto. Koffing is worth mentioning because it can help with the offensive Rhyhorn and Cubone who can OHKO Numel with Earthquake. Water-types like Seaking and Staryu threaten Numel because they can stomach an Earthquake and OHKO back with their 4x effective Water moves, so support from special walls like Dustox and Castform are needed.

Mention Spikes from Snorunt as Snorunt and Numel synergize very well. For example, Snorunt is forced out by common leads like Quil, Elekid, Growlithe, and Spoink. Numel beats these (unless quil is running HP water) while appreciating Spikes support allowing it to more easily remove and threaten Dustox or incentivize the opponent bringing in Koffing

Don't link the Koffing sentence with the previous one. Make it its own point in the paragraph otherwise the sentence have about koffing is perfect.

Mention how easy it is to take advantage of Numel if its Alseep and what Pokemon can help remedy that

[STRATEGY COMMENTS]
Other Options
=============

Numel can opt to run Toxic and Protect over RestTalk to take down Lileep, although it compromises its effectiveness to properly check its targets and act as a status absorber. Fire Blast gives Numel a safer 2HKO into Koffing and 3HKO into Dustox and specially defensive Sunflora, although it is not usually favored because of the lack of accurracy and much less PP compared to Flamethrower. Rock Slide is also an option over Flamethrower to pick up the OHKO on Butterfree, but isn't preferred because it is then walled by Grass-types and Koffing.

Checks and Counters
===================

**Water-types**: Water-types like Seaking and Staryu both come in safely on Numel and threaten to OHKO it with their 4x effective Water moves. Chinchou can do the same, although it has to be careful of coming in on an Earthquake. Mention Croconaw as its high defense means it can switch into an EQ and be relatively okay.

**Water-type coverage**

Stuff like Cyndaquil, Magnemite, and Growlithe can all run HP water which usually 2HKO's Numel.

**Ground-types**: Rhyhorn and Cubone outspeed and OHKO Numel with Earthquake. However, Rhyhorn doesn't particularly enjoy being chunked by Numel's own Earthquake when it tries to switch in.

**Physical Attackers**: Choice Band users like Aipom and Pidgeotto both threaten to OHKO Numel with its weak physical bulk.

**Lileep**: Lileep is able to sit on Numel and stall it out if it's running Hidden Power Grass over Giga Drain.

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[red fintans]

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is it pronounced new-mel or nuh-mel

[SET]
name: Special Wall
move 1: Earthquake
move 2: Fire Blast / Flamethrower
move 3: Rest
move 4: Sleep Talk
item: Leftovers / Chesto Berry
ability: Oblivious
nature: Sassy
evs: 252 HP / 4 SpA / 252 SpD

[SET COMMENTS]
Numel's typing gives it a niche to work as a special wall since it can switch into Koffing safely, (RC) while also taking on some two since its exactly two and not a "such as" list of the most powerful special attackers of the tier, (RC) : (colon) Elekid and Growlithe. Numel can come in safely and OHKO both of these threats with STAB Earthquake, (RC) while also being able to chunk offensive switch-ins like Rhyhorn. Fire Blast is its preferred Fire-type STAB move since it allows Numel to 2HKO Koffing and 3HKO Dustox. Flamethrower is an option with its better accuracy and greater PP since it still does well against the likes of Sunflora and Bayleef, but it fails to threaten Koffing and Dustox. RestTalk is the best recovery option to increase Numel's longevity. It's also worth mentioning that RestTalk gives Numel the ability to stall out Dustox in a 1v1 situation. Leftovers is preferred to rack up recovery against more passive opponents, while Chesto Berry works to give Numel the ability to keep threatening its enemies since being asleep can make it much more passive.

Numel best performs best on balance teams looking for something to handle Electric- and Fire-types like Elekid and Growlithe. It pairs well with Snorunt since Numel can switch into the leads that can beat it like Cyndaquil, Elekid, (AC) and Spoink, while Spikes from Snorunt specifying give it a greater chance to take down Dustox with a 2HKO. Special attackers benefit from Numel's ability to safely switch into Dustox and Grimer to wear them down. Fast attackers and setup sweepers like Croconaw and Aipom appreciate Numel's ability as a status absorber with its typing and RestTalk. With its horrible physical bulk, Numel needs support from Pokemon that resist Normal-types, (AC) this is usually not necessary but its hard to read without it like Rhyhorn, Nosepass, (AC) and Lileep, (AC) this is necessary because of the one above to take hits from Aipom and Pidgeotto. Koffing is a great partner because it can help with offensive foes like Rhyhorn and Cubone who that pokemon are not referred to as "who" can OHKO Numel with Earthquake. Water-types like Seaking and Staryu threaten Numel because they can stomach an Earthquake and OHKO back with their 4x effective Water moves, so support from special walls like Dustox and Castform are needed. Numel can be taken advantage of when asleep, making Delcatty a solid teammate that can help remedy this how?.

[STRATEGY COMMENTS]
Other Options
=============

Numel can opt to run Toxic and Protect over RestTalk to take down Lileep, although it compromises its effectiveness to properly check its targets and act as a status absorber. Fire Blast gives Numel a safer 2HKO into Koffing and 3HKO into Dustox and specially defensive Sunflora, although it is not usually favored because of the lack of accurracy accuracy accurracy moment and much less PP compared to Flamethrower. isnt fire blast slashed as preferred? review this Rock Slide is also an option over Flamethrower to pick up the OHKO on Butterfree, but it isn't preferred because it Numel rock slide is the subject rn is then walled by Grass-types and Koffing.

Checks and Counters
===================

**Water-types**: Water-types like Seaking, Croconaw, (AC) and Staryu both come in safely on Numel and threaten to OHKO it with their 4x effective Water moves. Chinchou can do the same, although it has to be careful of coming in on an Earthquake.

**Water-type Coverage**: Pokemon like Cyndaquil, Magnemite, and Growlithe all have the potential to <- a bit weird imo but thats just imo run Hidden Power Water to 2HKO Numel.

**Ground-types**: Rhyhorn and Cubone outspeed and OHKO Numel with Earthquake. However, Rhyhorn doesn't particularly enjoy being chunked by Numel's own redundancy Earthquake when it tries to switch in.

**Physical Attackers**: Choice Band users like Aipom and Pidgeotto both subject is choice band users -> plural (not just two) threaten to OHKO Numel with its weak physical bulk.

**Lileep**: Lileep is able to <- a bit weird imo but thats just imo sit on Numel and stall it out if it's running Hidden Power Grass over Giga Drain.

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[sleid]

Implemented, ready for upload. Thank you for the gp!