AccidentalGreed
Sweet and bitter as chocolate.
Hey all. Following Pocket's actions, I have created my own discussion thread on a specific list of Pokemon, and which ones need revamps or small changes. I will post my courses of action (in addition to test results), and I'd like people here to post on what they think needs attention / fixing. Here it is.
Test results will be posted below each action in this format
Amoonguss:
-Regenerator definitely needs to be implemented here. Like, immediately.
~Well, this is pretty inevitable.
-Rewrite the analysis a little so that Amoonguss seems more relevant to the metagame, which is definitely is and will always be.
-Rewrite approved
-Clear Smog mention of Specially Defensive set, and maybe test out a physically defensive one?
~This will be the new set:
[SET]
Name: Defensive
move 1: Spore
move 2: Giga Drain
move 3: Hidden Power Ice / Sludge Bomb
move 4: Clear Smog / Stun Spore
item: Leftovers
ability: Regenerator
nature: Calm
evs: 220 HP / 28 SpA / 252 SpD
OU worthy: Yes
Worth a revamp: Yes
Celebi:
-Rename "Navi."
-Nothing too complicated, since we basically wrote everything it can do besides Swords Dance and SubSeed (needs a set? Get back to me on this)
-Tweak the EVs on Specially Defensive
-Reorder sets to relevancy and viability
-Add in threats and emphasize Celebi's value in the metagame (against threats like Breloom and Keldeo)
~approved, and all changes will be implemented in the revamp
OU worthy: Yes
Worth a revamp: Yes
Cresselia:
-Make Ice Beam main slash for 3rd move on the Standard set
-Mention Sunny Day on the standard set in AC
-Emphasize Cresselia's strengths on a Sun team
-Retest SubCM, remove if necessary
~Very subpar and unheard of, removing.
OU worthy: hardly, but yes
Worth a revamp: No
Dusknoir:
-Delete the analysis entirely. There are some things that this thing wishes it CAN do, and some QC members have shown agreement with this.
OU worthy: No
Worth a revamp: No
Froslass:
-No major changes outside of shaping up the analysis to be more relevant to the current metagame.
-A mention of specific Hidden Powers.
OU worthy: hardly, but yes
Worth a revamp: No
Heracross:
-Requires a retest of certain sets, since some of these sets don't seem relevant enough in the game now.
~Pocket Approved
-Test Moxie sets
-Test how viable Sleep Talk is
OU worthy: Yes
Worth a revamp: Yes
Kingdra:
-Most Rain Dance / DD sets require 228 EVs to outrun Scarf Latios after a boost. Taking some extra HP EVs doesn't really matter.
-Retest Mixed Dragon Dance, tweak EVs
-Retest Choice Specs for viability, tweak EVs
-Scrap Lum Berry completely from ChestoRest
-Test out some new DD sets, such as Double Dance (Rain Dance + Dragon Dance), SubDD, and Dragon Dance + Disable (Sacrifices Waterfall for Protect and Disable, allowing Kingdra to bypass phazing and status)
-Rewrite some parts of analysis, since I wrote certain parts too long
~Screw it, just revamp the whole thing
OU worthy: Yes
Worth a revamp: Yes
Magneton:
-Slash Salac Berry and tweak EVs accordingly on SubCharge set
~Will do
-Make SubSalac its own set?
~too similar to the other subcharge set; just slash Salac on SubCharge
-Make Hidden Power Ice a slash on SubCharge and possibly SubSalac
~Will do
OU worthy: Yes
Worth a revamp: No
Ninetales:
-Definitely needs Pain Split on several sets, although I don't know how effective it would be in practice. Testing.
~Pain Split is viable only on the Specially Defensive set
-Retest Choice Specs, since I've never seen it in action, nor acknowledged its viability
~Deleting entirely, thanks to QC approval. Ninetales has only, what? 81 SpA?
-Retest Nasty Plot, since I've never seen it in action, nor acknowledged its viability
~I'm convinced
-Remove Special Attacker, since it's a redundant set
~Approved by Shrang
-Scrap Toxic from the Sunny Day set; Will-o-Wisp does more to targets after three turns
~Approved
-Scrap Hypnosis from the Choice Specs set (if it passes the Retest)
~lolnope
-Just revamp the whole damn thing
OU worthy: Yes
Worth a revamp: Yes
Rotom-C:
-Shrang: Merge "Special Scout" with "Choice Specs" and call it "Special Attacker". I need to distinguish the two sets.
-No major changes
~The analysis will not be majorly changed outside of new threats
OU worthy: Yes
Worth a revamp: No
Shaymin:
-Retest all sets; the Shaymin analysis is basically cookie-cut from the 4th generation one, and the prose is generic
-Pay special attention to SubSeed
OU worthy: It's an alright attacker
Worth a revamp: No, not really
Stoutland:
-Add Superpower to Choice Band set
~will be implemented in the revamped/rewritten analysis
-Retest for general viability; I've always doubted its viability, especially when it's hard for the dog to get past certain defensive Pokemon in the metagame.
~Proven viable
OU worthy: Rare, but very viable
Worth a revamp: Yes
Uxie:
-Retest for general viability; I think it'll pass, but this thing has massive competition with the likes of other defensive/support Pokemon with competent typings
~Due to some thoughts from QC, we have decided that outside of Uxie's unique combination of Dual Screens | Memento | U-turn / Stealth Rock, it has no reason to wander in OU due to heavy competition with Deoxys-D, as well as other support-oriented Pokemon.
OU worthy: No
Worth a revamp: No
Wobbuffet:
-Test out Custap Berry (and prove its release)
~Custap Berry isn't released, it seems, so nope.jpeg
-looks fine overall
OU worthy: Yes
Worth a revamp: No
Test results will be posted below each action in this format
Amoonguss:
-Regenerator definitely needs to be implemented here. Like, immediately.
~Well, this is pretty inevitable.
-Rewrite the analysis a little so that Amoonguss seems more relevant to the metagame, which is definitely is and will always be.
-Rewrite approved
-Clear Smog mention of Specially Defensive set, and maybe test out a physically defensive one?
~This will be the new set:
[SET]
Name: Defensive
move 1: Spore
move 2: Giga Drain
move 3: Hidden Power Ice / Sludge Bomb
move 4: Clear Smog / Stun Spore
item: Leftovers
ability: Regenerator
nature: Calm
evs: 220 HP / 28 SpA / 252 SpD
OU worthy: Yes
Worth a revamp: Yes
Celebi:
-Rename "Navi."
-Nothing too complicated, since we basically wrote everything it can do besides Swords Dance and SubSeed (needs a set? Get back to me on this)
-Tweak the EVs on Specially Defensive
-Reorder sets to relevancy and viability
-Add in threats and emphasize Celebi's value in the metagame (against threats like Breloom and Keldeo)
~approved, and all changes will be implemented in the revamp
OU worthy: Yes
Worth a revamp: Yes
Cresselia:
-Make Ice Beam main slash for 3rd move on the Standard set
-Mention Sunny Day on the standard set in AC
-Emphasize Cresselia's strengths on a Sun team
-Retest SubCM, remove if necessary
~Very subpar and unheard of, removing.
OU worthy: hardly, but yes
Worth a revamp: No
Dusknoir:
-Delete the analysis entirely. There are some things that this thing wishes it CAN do, and some QC members have shown agreement with this.
OU worthy: No
Worth a revamp: No
Froslass:
-No major changes outside of shaping up the analysis to be more relevant to the current metagame.
-A mention of specific Hidden Powers.
OU worthy: hardly, but yes
Worth a revamp: No
Heracross:
-Requires a retest of certain sets, since some of these sets don't seem relevant enough in the game now.
~Pocket Approved
-Test Moxie sets
-Test how viable Sleep Talk is
OU worthy: Yes
Worth a revamp: Yes
Kingdra:
-Most Rain Dance / DD sets require 228 EVs to outrun Scarf Latios after a boost. Taking some extra HP EVs doesn't really matter.
-Retest Mixed Dragon Dance, tweak EVs
-Retest Choice Specs for viability, tweak EVs
-Scrap Lum Berry completely from ChestoRest
-Test out some new DD sets, such as Double Dance (Rain Dance + Dragon Dance), SubDD, and Dragon Dance + Disable (Sacrifices Waterfall for Protect and Disable, allowing Kingdra to bypass phazing and status)
-Rewrite some parts of analysis, since I wrote certain parts too long
~Screw it, just revamp the whole thing
OU worthy: Yes
Worth a revamp: Yes
Magneton:
-Slash Salac Berry and tweak EVs accordingly on SubCharge set
~Will do
-Make SubSalac its own set?
~too similar to the other subcharge set; just slash Salac on SubCharge
-Make Hidden Power Ice a slash on SubCharge and possibly SubSalac
~Will do
OU worthy: Yes
Worth a revamp: No
Ninetales:
-Definitely needs Pain Split on several sets, although I don't know how effective it would be in practice. Testing.
~Pain Split is viable only on the Specially Defensive set
-Retest Choice Specs, since I've never seen it in action, nor acknowledged its viability
~Deleting entirely, thanks to QC approval. Ninetales has only, what? 81 SpA?
-Retest Nasty Plot, since I've never seen it in action, nor acknowledged its viability
~I'm convinced
-Remove Special Attacker, since it's a redundant set
~Approved by Shrang
-Scrap Toxic from the Sunny Day set; Will-o-Wisp does more to targets after three turns
~Approved
-Scrap Hypnosis from the Choice Specs set (if it passes the Retest)
~lolnope
-Just revamp the whole damn thing
OU worthy: Yes
Worth a revamp: Yes
Rotom-C:
-Shrang: Merge "Special Scout" with "Choice Specs" and call it "Special Attacker". I need to distinguish the two sets.
-No major changes
~The analysis will not be majorly changed outside of new threats
OU worthy: Yes
Worth a revamp: No
Shaymin:
-Retest all sets; the Shaymin analysis is basically cookie-cut from the 4th generation one, and the prose is generic
-Pay special attention to SubSeed
OU worthy: It's an alright attacker
Worth a revamp: No, not really
Stoutland:
-Add Superpower to Choice Band set
~will be implemented in the revamped/rewritten analysis
-
~Proven viable
OU worthy: Rare, but very viable
Worth a revamp: Yes
Uxie:
-Retest for general viability; I think it'll pass, but this thing has massive competition with the likes of other defensive/support Pokemon with competent typings
~Due to some thoughts from QC, we have decided that outside of Uxie's unique combination of Dual Screens | Memento | U-turn / Stealth Rock, it has no reason to wander in OU due to heavy competition with Deoxys-D, as well as other support-oriented Pokemon.
OU worthy: No
Worth a revamp: No
Wobbuffet:
-Test out Custap Berry (and prove its release)
~Custap Berry isn't released, it seems, so nope.jpeg
-looks fine overall
OU worthy: Yes
Worth a revamp: No