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A most cereal battle between Toon and Elevator Music
- Thread starter nightblitz42
- Start date
Banette: Substitute (15 HP) ~ Metronome (Arm Thrust/Beat Up/Bonemerang/Bullet Seed/Double Hit/Gear Grind/Icicle Spear/Pin Missile/Rock Blast/Water Shuriken) ~ Gunk Shot
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Normal / Fairy (F)
Cute Charm / Competitive / Frisk | Moon Stone
HP: 59 | EN: 56
3/2/4[5]/2/39 | 2/2/18
Status: OK, +1 SpA [Moon Stone], -10% Evasion
Ghost (F)
Insomnia / Frisk / Cursed Body / Prankster | Banettite
HP: 95 | EN: 83
7/3/4/3/65 | 2/2/22
Status: Foresight (3a), -10% Evasion
A1
Banette used Substitute (15hp)!
-15hp (80 HP remaining)
-12 EN (71 EN remaining)
Foresight -> 2a
Wigglytuff used Pain Split!
But it failed!
EN cost = 6+(95-59)/2 -1 = -23 EN (33 EN remaining)
A2
Banette used Metronome!
Rolled 8/10: Pin Missile!
Hits: (rolled 4/6): 3 hits!
Hit chance = (95+10)%: Guaranteed hits!
Crit 1 (rolled 5/16): NO
Crit 2 (rolled 2/16): NO
Crit 3 (rolled 1/16): YES
Damage = (3*3+1+10-3)/1.5 = 11.33 damage (47.67 HP remaining)
-7 EN (64 EN remaining)
Foresight -> 1a
Wigglytuff used Hyper Voice!
Crit chance = 1/16 (rolled 4/16): NO
(Frisk negates BAP bonus from Moon Stone)
Damage = 9+3+7.5-4.5 = 15 damage (65 HP remaining)
-6 EN (27 EN remaining)
Cursed Body chance = 30% (rolled 20/100): DISABLED (6a)!
Cursed Body -> 5a
A3
Banette used Gunk Shot!
Hit chance = (80+10)% = 90% (rolled 76/100): HIT
Crit chance = 1/16 (rolled 6/16): NO
Damage = (12+10-3)*1.5 = 28.5 damage (19.17 HP remaining)
Poison chance = 30% (rolled 43/100): NO
-8 EN (56 EN remaining)
Banette's Foresight wore off!
Wigglytuff used Counter!
But it had no effect!
EN cost = 6+(28.5/2) = -20.25 EN (6.75 EN remaining)
Cursed Body -> 4a
Post-Round
Wigglytuff EN -> 7
Wigglytuff HP -> 19
Banette used Substitute (15hp)!
-15hp (80 HP remaining)
-12 EN (71 EN remaining)
Foresight -> 2a
Wigglytuff used Pain Split!
But it failed!
EN cost = 6+(95-59)/2 -1 = -23 EN (33 EN remaining)
A2
Banette used Metronome!
Rolled 8/10: Pin Missile!
Hits: (rolled 4/6): 3 hits!
Hit chance = (95+10)%: Guaranteed hits!
Crit 1 (rolled 5/16): NO
Crit 2 (rolled 2/16): NO
Crit 3 (rolled 1/16): YES
Damage = (3*3+1+10-3)/1.5 = 11.33 damage (47.67 HP remaining)
-7 EN (64 EN remaining)
Foresight -> 1a
Wigglytuff used Hyper Voice!
Crit chance = 1/16 (rolled 4/16): NO
(Frisk negates BAP bonus from Moon Stone)
Damage = 9+3+7.5-4.5 = 15 damage (65 HP remaining)
-6 EN (27 EN remaining)
Cursed Body chance = 30% (rolled 20/100): DISABLED (6a)!
Cursed Body -> 5a
A3
Banette used Gunk Shot!
Hit chance = (80+10)% = 90% (rolled 76/100): HIT
Crit chance = 1/16 (rolled 6/16): NO
Damage = (12+10-3)*1.5 = 28.5 damage (19.17 HP remaining)
Poison chance = 30% (rolled 43/100): NO
-8 EN (56 EN remaining)
Banette's Foresight wore off!
Wigglytuff used Counter!
But it had no effect!
EN cost = 6+(28.5/2) = -20.25 EN (6.75 EN remaining)
Cursed Body -> 4a
Post-Round
Wigglytuff EN -> 7
Wigglytuff HP -> 19
Normal / Fairy (F)
Cute Charm / Competitive / Frisk | Moon Stone
HP: 19 | EN: 7
3/2/4[5]/2/39 | 2/2/18
Status: Hyper Voice Disabled by Cursed Body (4a), +1 SpA [Moon Stone], -10% Evasion
Normal (F)
Cute Charm / Klutz / Limber | no item
HP: 54 | EN: 51
3/4/1/4/105 | 2/3/19
Status: OK
Water / Fairy (M)
Thick Fat / Huge Power / Sap Sipper | Float Stone
HP: 27 | EN: 70
3[6]/3/2/3/50 | 2/3[1.5]/17[20]
Status: Resting (2a), +3 Atk [Huge Power], 50% WC [Float Stone], 1KOC
Ghost (F)
Insomnia / Frisk / Cursed Body / Prankster | Banettite
HP: 65 | EN: 56
7/3/4/3/65 | 2/2/22
Status: OK, Substitute (15hp), -10% Evasion
Dark (F)
Fur Coat / Technician / Rattled | Darkinium Z
HP: 30 | EN: 66
2/3/4/3/115 | 3/3/19
Status: OK
Status: KO
2nd sub should activate and i should hyper voice a1, and i thought all effects (except for water gun fsr) duration happen at the end of the action so Counter should break sub? If im wrong then whoops
nightblitz42
nightblitz42
"IF Banette is not under the effects of P/E OR not under the effects of Substitute THEN Pain Split First Instance And Push Back"
Because Banette is not under the effects of P/E, Wigglytuff performs Pain Split and pushes back. I'm guessing you would've wanted to write AND instead of OR.
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As for Foresight timing, the ASB Player's Handbook (under Effect Timing: End of Turn) says:
The following effects occur on a Pokemon after it has taken its turn in the action:
...2. All ongoing effects on the Pokemon with a duration given in actions that are not specified elsewhere have their remaining duration lowered by 1.
And Foresight duration is not specified elsewhere. If the ASB Player's Handbook is outdated (which it often seems to be) then I'll fix that.
Toon
Because Banette is not under the effects of P/E, Wigglytuff performs Pain Split and pushes back. I'm guessing you would've wanted to write AND instead of OR.
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As for Foresight timing, the ASB Player's Handbook (under Effect Timing: End of Turn) says:
The following effects occur on a Pokemon after it has taken its turn in the action:
...2. All ongoing effects on the Pokemon with a duration given in actions that are not specified elsewhere have their remaining duration lowered by 1.
And Foresight duration is not specified elsewhere. If the ASB Player's Handbook is outdated (which it often seems to be) then I'll fix that.
Toon
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Banette: Double-Edge ~ Double-Edge ~ Double-Edge
Banette: Double-Edge ~ Double-Edge ~ Double-Edge
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Normal / Fairy (F)
Cute Charm / Competitive / Frisk | Moon Stone
HP: 19 | EN: 7
3/2/4[5]/2/39 | 2/2/18
Status: Hyper Voice Disabled by Cursed Body (4a), +1 SpA [Moon Stone], -10% Evasion
Ghost (F)
Insomnia / Frisk / Cursed Body / Prankster | Banettite
HP: 65 | EN: 56
7/3/4/3/65 | 2/2/22
Status: OK, Substitute (15hp), -10% Evasion
A1
Wigglytuff used Bide!
Banette used Double-Edge!
Crit chance = 1/16 (rolled 10/16): NO
BAP = CEILING[10+(2/1.5)] = 12
Damage = 12+10-3 = 19 damage (KO!)
Recoil = 19/3 = -6.33 HP (58.67 HP remaining)
EN cost = 6+(2/2.5) = -6.8 EN (49.2 EN remaining)
Post-Round
Banette HP -> 59
Banette EN -> 49
Banette used Double-Edge!
Crit chance = 1/16 (rolled 10/16): NO
BAP = CEILING[10+(2/1.5)] = 12
Damage = 12+10-3 = 19 damage (KO!)
Recoil = 19/3 = -6.33 HP (58.67 HP remaining)
EN cost = 6+(2/2.5) = -6.8 EN (49.2 EN remaining)
Post-Round
Banette HP -> 59
Banette EN -> 49
Status: KO
Normal (F)
Cute Charm / Klutz / Limber | no item
HP: 54 | EN: 51
3/4/1/4/105 | 2/3/19
Status: OK
Water / Fairy (M)
Thick Fat / Huge Power / Sap Sipper | Float Stone
HP: 27 | EN: 70
3[6]/3/2/3/50 | 2/3[1.5]/17[20]
Status: Resting (2a), +3 Atk [Huge Power], 50% WC [Float Stone], 1KOC
Ghost (F)
Insomnia / Frisk / Cursed Body / Prankster | Banettite
HP: 59 | EN: 49
7/3/4/3/65 | 2/2/22
Status: OK, Substitute (15hp), -10% Evasion
Dark (F)
Fur Coat / Technician / Rattled | Darkinium Z
HP: 30 | EN: 66
2/3/4/3/115 | 3/3/19
Status: OK
Status: KO
Banette: Pursuit ~ Pursuit ~ Return
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Normal (F)
Cute Charm / Klutz / Limber | no item
HP: 54 | EN: 51
3/4/1/4/105 | 2/3/19
Status: OK
Ghost (F)
Insomnia / Frisk / Cursed Body / Prankster | Banettite
HP: 59 | EN: 49
7/3/4/3/65 | 2/2/22
Status: OK, Substitute (15hp), -10% Evasion
A1
Banette used Pursuit!
Crit chance = 1/16 (Rolled 11/16): NO
Damage = 8+10-6 = 12 damage (42 HP remaining)
-5 EN (44 EN remaining)
Lopunny used Bounce!
Hit chance = (85+10)% = 95% (rolled 31/100): HIT
Crit chance = 1/16 (rolled 6/16): NO
BAP = CEILING(7+3/2.5) = 9
Damage = 9+4.5-4.5 = 9 damage (Substitute: 6HP remaining)
Cursed Body chance = 30% (rolled 98/100): NO
-10 EN (41 EN remaining)
A2
Banette used Pursuit!
Crit chance = 1/16 (rolled 16/16): NO
12 damage (30 HP remaining)
-9 EN (35 EN remaining)
Lopunny used Dig!
Crit chance = 1/16 (rolled 12/16): NO
Damage = 8+4.5-4.5 = 8 damage (Substitute KO!)
Cursed Body chance = 30% (rolled 92/100): NO
-10 EN (31 EN remaining)
A3
Lopunny used Brutal Swing!
Crit chance = 1/16 (rolled 1/16): CRIT!
Damage = (6+3+4.5-4.5)*1.5 = 12 damage (47 HP remaining)
Cursed Body chance = 30% (rolled 41/100): NO
-5 EN (26 EN remaining)
Banette used Return!
Crit chance = 1/16 (rolled 5/16): NO
Damage = 10+10-6 = 14 damage (16 HP remaining)
-7 EN (28 EN remaining)
Banette used Pursuit!
Crit chance = 1/16 (Rolled 11/16): NO
Damage = 8+10-6 = 12 damage (42 HP remaining)
-5 EN (44 EN remaining)
Lopunny used Bounce!
Hit chance = (85+10)% = 95% (rolled 31/100): HIT
Crit chance = 1/16 (rolled 6/16): NO
BAP = CEILING(7+3/2.5) = 9
Damage = 9+4.5-4.5 = 9 damage (Substitute: 6HP remaining)
Cursed Body chance = 30% (rolled 98/100): NO
-10 EN (41 EN remaining)
A2
Banette used Pursuit!
Crit chance = 1/16 (rolled 16/16): NO
12 damage (30 HP remaining)
-9 EN (35 EN remaining)
Lopunny used Dig!
Crit chance = 1/16 (rolled 12/16): NO
Damage = 8+4.5-4.5 = 8 damage (Substitute KO!)
Cursed Body chance = 30% (rolled 92/100): NO
-10 EN (31 EN remaining)
A3
Lopunny used Brutal Swing!
Crit chance = 1/16 (rolled 1/16): CRIT!
Damage = (6+3+4.5-4.5)*1.5 = 12 damage (47 HP remaining)
Cursed Body chance = 30% (rolled 41/100): NO
-5 EN (26 EN remaining)
Banette used Return!
Crit chance = 1/16 (rolled 5/16): NO
Damage = 10+10-6 = 14 damage (16 HP remaining)
-7 EN (28 EN remaining)
Normal (F)
Cute Charm / Klutz / Limber | no item
HP: 16 | EN: 26
3/4/1/4/105 | 2/3/19
Status: OK
Status: KO
Water / Fairy (M)
Thick Fat / Huge Power / Sap Sipper | Float Stone
HP: 27 | EN: 70
3[6]/3/2/3/50 | 2/3[1.5]/17[20]
Status: Resting (2a), +3 Atk [Huge Power], 50% WC [Float Stone], 1KOC
Ghost (F)
Insomnia / Frisk / Cursed Body / Prankster | Banettite
HP: 47 | EN: 28
7/3/4/3/65 | 2/2/22
Status: OK, -10% Evasion
Dark (F)
Fur Coat / Technician / Rattled | Darkinium Z
HP: 30 | EN: 66
2/3/4/3/115 | 3/3/19
Status: OK
Status: KO
Banette: Double-Edge ~ Double-Edge ~ Return
IF (a damaging evasive move is used) THEN (use Pursuit)
IF (Endure is used) THEN (use Infestation)
IF (Encore is used) THEN (use Taunt)
IF (Endure is used) THEN (use Infestation)
IF (Encore is used) THEN (use Taunt)
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Normal (F)
Cute Charm / Klutz / Limber | no item
HP: 16 | EN: 26
3/4/1/4/105 | 2/3/19
Status: OK
Ghost (F)
Insomnia / Frisk / Cursed Body / Prankster | Banettite
HP: 47 | EN: 28
7/3/4/3/65 | 2/2/22
Status: OK, -10% Evasion, 1KOC
A1
Lopunny used Substitute (15hp)!
-15hp (1 HP remaining)
-11 EN (15 EN remaining)
Banette used Double-Edge!
Crit chance = 1/16 (rolled 5/16): NO
BAP = CELINING(10+2/1.5) = 12
Damage = 12+10-6=16 damage (Substitute KO!)
Recoil = 16/3 = 5.333... (41.666... HP remaining)
EN cost = 6+(2/2.5) = -6.8 EN (21.2 EN remaining)
A2
Lopunny used Protect!
Banette used Double-Edge!
Crit chance = 1/16 (rolled 16/16): NO
16 damage (PROTECTED!)
Lopunny EN cost = 7+(16/2.5)-1 = -12.4 EN (2.6 EN remaining)
Recoil = 5.333... (36.333... HP remaining)
-10.8 EN (10.4 EN remaining)
A3
Banette used Taunt!
Lopunny fell for the Taunt (6a)!
-10 EN (0.4 EN remaining) (ENKO!)
Lopunny is Taunted!
Lopunny was unable to act!
Taunt -> 5a
Post-Round
Lopunny EN -> 3
Lopunny used Substitute (15hp)!
-15hp (1 HP remaining)
-11 EN (15 EN remaining)
Banette used Double-Edge!
Crit chance = 1/16 (rolled 5/16): NO
BAP = CELINING(10+2/1.5) = 12
Damage = 12+10-6=16 damage (Substitute KO!)
Recoil = 16/3 = 5.333... (41.666... HP remaining)
EN cost = 6+(2/2.5) = -6.8 EN (21.2 EN remaining)
A2
Lopunny used Protect!
Banette used Double-Edge!
Crit chance = 1/16 (rolled 16/16): NO
16 damage (PROTECTED!)
Lopunny EN cost = 7+(16/2.5)-1 = -12.4 EN (2.6 EN remaining)
Recoil = 5.333... (36.333... HP remaining)
-10.8 EN (10.4 EN remaining)
A3
Banette used Taunt!
Lopunny fell for the Taunt (6a)!
-10 EN (0.4 EN remaining) (ENKO!)
Lopunny is Taunted!
Lopunny was unable to act!
Taunt -> 5a
Post-Round
Lopunny EN -> 3
Normal (F)
Cute Charm / Klutz / Limber | no item
HP: 1 | EN: 3
3/4/1/4/105 | 2/3/19
Status: Taunted (5a), 1KOC
Status: KO
Water / Fairy (M)
Thick Fat / Huge Power / Sap Sipper | Float Stone
HP: 27 | EN: 70
3[6]/3/2/3/50 | 2/3[1.5]/17[20]
Status: Resting (2a), +3 Atk [Huge Power], 50% WC [Float Stone], 1KOC
Status: KO, 1KOC
Dark (F)
Fur Coat / Technician / Rattled | Darkinium Z
HP: 30 | EN: 66
2/3/4/3/115 | 3/3/19
Status: OK
Status: KO
Persian-A @ Darkinium Z
Persian-A: Fake Out ~ Fake Out ~ Fake Out
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Normal (F)
Cute Charm / Klutz / Limber | no item
HP: 1 | EN: 3
3/4/1/4/105 | 2/3/19
Status: Taunted (5a), 1KOC
Dark (F)
Fur Coat / Technician / Rattled | Darkinium Z
HP: 30 | EN: 66
2/3/4/3/115 | 3/3/19
Status: OK
A1
Persian used Fake Out!
Crit chance = 1/16 (rolled 5/16): NO
Damage = 4*1.5+3-6 = 3 damage (KO!)
-5 EN (61 EN remaining)
Persian used Fake Out!
Crit chance = 1/16 (rolled 5/16): NO
Damage = 4*1.5+3-6 = 3 damage (KO!)
-5 EN (61 EN remaining)
Status: KO, 1KOC
Status: KO
Water / Fairy (M)
Thick Fat / Huge Power / Sap Sipper | Float Stone
HP: 27 | EN: 70
3[6]/3/2/3/50 | 2/3[1.5]/17[20]
Status: Resting (2a), +3 Atk [Huge Power], 50% WC [Float Stone], 1KOC
Dark (F)
Fur Coat / Technician / Rattled | Darkinium Z
HP: 30 | EN: 61
2/3/4/3/115 | 3/3/19
Status: OK, 1KOC
Status: KO, 1KOC
Status: KO
