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you still can burn with will-o-wisp, and you can use wild charge. The only water type that safely can switch it without taking any damage is Seismitoad. Play rough still threatens Dragapult, Mandibuzz, and Hydreigon. I think people are sleeping on Arcanine really.

Im not sure it does, if its running sub, it wont be able to do anything. I feel like gen 8 is going to make a lot of people quit playing comp altogether. To me it feels like there is no strategy of countering some things in this gen. It feels like you just get rewarded for playing the most...

Has anyone found a way to counter Eiscue? I haven't found anyway to beat it. It takes a free hit no matter what then just wins with belly drum.

This also begs the question is reg veno going to be ranked, shouldn't amoonguss? Since they pretty much do the same thing in the sun, it also can run solar beam, and growth+stomping tantrum. And has spore.

I said its speed and low damage. It doesn't mater if MM is slow since it has sucker punch, it doesn't matter if tapu bulu is slow cause top threats don't want to get hit by choice band stone edge. Which also makes it a more useful grass type, not only by taking out tornadus, but steel types as...

Mega veno is fine were its at. Its slow speed and and damage is kind lacking. Also it can't come in on Lele, unless it wants to get 1 hit ko by psychic. If tornadus is going to rise in the ranks, thats also not good. Most of the time you are better using amoonguss or tangrowth. Nothing wants to...

I don't know if usage really proves anything. I know this might get deleted but can this site show win rates of mons? Id like to see the win rate of mega-Manectric and the win rate of Zeraora on ladder. Sorry for asking this.

SP attacker koko can also 1 hit ko Lando and Gliscor with HP ice. You also said that Mega-Mane is bad vs stall. Which is other good reason to use Zeraora over it. Zeraora can smash through SP walls like chansey. These are pretty good valid points not even bother with Mega-Mane.

When using Breloom this is what I'm thinking, ok so what advantage do I have over using bulu, kartana or even serperior? I have to rely on spore to set up, even though anyone else can easily counter it with other top grass type, then countering me with a poison move, making Breloom dead weight...

Id like to mention that Kartana and Bulu, don't need good fighting type moves, even though bulu has super power. and Kartana has sacred sword, meaning things that are weak to fighting don't want to switch on them anyway. And don't need spore to make them ranked. They can survive a lot longer...

Its not that its worse then Kartana, Breloom is worse then every other grass in OU. Its not going to set on fairys such as tapu Koko. Even if it does set up it can easily be dealt with. Other grass types don't really fear fairy types like, mega venusaur, Kartana, or amoonguss. They can set up on...

Rise to C I don't think that C- represents this Pokemon's capabilities to clean whatsoever. I've been running a fatter DD variant as of late, which utilizes Roost to ease set up against Scarf Landorus (assuming it doesn't crit you or you haven't taken chip beforehand). It destroys all Heatran...

Of course, I never said it was going to come in on something that has quiver dance or dd. I said it can't beat them, stop changing the subject.

I wasn't arguing with anyone. Why are you even bringing that up? That has nothing to do with how good ash greninja is. Why are you changing the subject to how pre-ninja is very frail. I know how powerful ash is, but it actually has to transform. And a lot of things can take hits from its attacks...

I'm pretty sure why Ash-Gren isn't S-tier is not cause of how frail it is before turning into Ash. Is how you also can't bring it in on anything else with quiver dance, dragon dance also. Sure it can counter a lot of things, but even +1 quiver dance or +1 dragon dance mons don't care, since they...

Never once did I say Ferro counters zygarde better then Tang, so I don't know why you keep assuming that. Maybe its cause you guys have selective reading. Though I did give reason why Ferro is a better grass mon over Tang. There are very few fighting mons even worth worrying about at high...

@BlueLobster I was asking him a question, cause it seemed like he was talking about chipping away Ferro, it wasn't a statement, cause Zygarde can't dragon dance +3 while getting hit by gyroball every turn, so your statement is wrong. Though thanks for the answer. Leech seed is for coil not so...

im not sure what you mean, since tang has to switch re-gain heath, while Ferrothorn can just sit there with leech seed protect if it needs to. If Zygarde is running coil, then its even harder for Tang to fight Zygarde then Ferro.

I dont agree with Tang rise, mostly cause I still think ferrothorn is just better grass mon. Ferrothorn can also tank zygarde, and gyroball+leech seed it to death. Ferrothorn can also tank ash greninja way better then Tang, since Ferrothorn can't be hit by gunk shot, can tank ice beam and just...