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You didn't say a thing about Genesect, does that mean you think it is somehow balanced? I doubt anyone is considering Arceus-anything. 252 Atk Talonflame Brave Bird vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Shaymin-S: 362-428 (106.1 - 125.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO Now, tell me it hasn't become more balanced since Gen 5. I...

This is exactly why I'm saying other things should be brought down from Ubers for the preliminary phases. Genesect itself is obviously too powerful, in my eyes, to be allowed in an OU level meta-game. You may not see it as such, but just as you see other things as obviously too powerful, perhaps...

I don't think we should call these "complex" bans since smogon is still trying to avoid doing such things and it doesn't give an intuitive feel for what it actually is. I suggest calling them "Half" or "Mono" Bans to avoid confusion with the community outside of monotype. Also considering we are...