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Could I get an offense team with the legendary double dragon combo of SD Haxorus and Scarf Lati? Thanks.angery dracoboi (Haxorus) @ Lum Berry Ability: Mold Breaker EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe Jolly Nature - Swords Dance - Outrage - Earthquake - Poison Jab bullis r bad...

Serious issue with that argument, Absol-Mega exists and can Sucker Punch things to death while also having the ability to boost without Moxie and a far better speed tier. Aside from that I don't like the niche argument because in that case C- becomes open to plenty of mons that aren't there, how...

Shifting away from the current discussion because I don't feel like I have something to add to it and I don't think there's much more to talk about regarding Abomasnow and Arcanine, just leave it to the council at this point and move on. I'm gonna discuss a few mons I've been using/tried out...

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Reserving Klefki, Doublade, Zygarde 10% blatantly stolen core from a team I saw pokeisfun use and tried for myself

Honestly I have to disagree and say that you're trying to move too quickly. All well and good to think that certain mons may be too good, but I'd say unless one of those mons looks really busted during this suspect that we should take a little bit of time. Especially in the cases of Latias and...

Alright, so our posts so far range from "just ban pls", to some weird tiering discussion, and a Magneton post which seems like it might belong in the VR thread. I want Latias-Mega gone, and there has been more than enough discussion on it imo, but if we're gonna go through the whole suspect...

I don't know where you are. But I will find you. And I will show you my Pokemon's nicknames.

JonathanXtreme It seems the most like a core that would be commonly used as it utilizes the same type restriction as a plus. Each mon wears down the other's checks and threats to create space, the other cores are either a little too passive imo or sadly became illegal after they were posted and...

So out of curiosity with Weavile and Mega Gardevoir gone what are our best answers to Mega Latias? I'd ask in the UU room but I've been traveling this past week and am far away from being able to hop onto Showdown.

That sounds like a dreadful tier, nevermind that your argument is flawed since we'd lose our defensive mons, hazard setters/removers, utility etc almost immediately since this hypothetical BL tier is seriously lopsided towards offensive threats and lacking in pretty much every other department.

Gonna be honest and say this ban rotom stuff just sounds silly, Rotom-W is essentially the guy with the guitar playing "Wonderwall" at a party. Its good at what it does yes, it's a pivot with solid typing, but honestly that's pretty much it. The Landorus-T comparison was a little silly as well...

I'll adjust EVs and such when I'm back at a computer, but you just need to KO after Rocks and one of your STABs. EDIT: ThiccTornadus ran the calc some and there's no way to really put it into guaranteed KO range that I'm comfortable with, either you sacrifice speed which I personally dislike...

Nidoking @ Life Orb Ability: Sheer Force EVs 252SPA 4 Def 252Speed Naive Nature - Sludge Wave - Earth Power - Superpower - Ice Beam/Taunt Kudos for coming up with mixed Nidoking, but the set already exists with more efficient coverage and EVs. Naive nature is selected so you can keep as much...

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I said myself that it's different because they don't occupy the same role. It's an example of a mon being banned because it's unhealthy rather than broken as a user above asked for. I made no attempt to level them as the same situation.

Another example would be the recent Sharpedo ban in RU, there were no claims that it broke the tier entirely, but it constrained teambuilding. Suddenly offense had to constantly run the same bulkier mons and change the pace that their team played at to avoid being easily run over. It's...

Sharpedo-Mega, Klefki, and Latias Ross from Friends (Sharpedo-Mega) @ Sharpedonite Ability: Speed Boost EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe Jolly Nature - Crunch - Ice Fang - Waterfall - Protect Vinz Clortho (Klefki) @ Leftovers Ability: Prankster EVs: 252 HP / 4 Atk / 252 Def Impish...

So I used to use this thread last gen to pick up teams since I was struggling to make anything decent and I got my first team I broke 1400 with from the sample team thread. I've suggested the sample teams thread to some people over time as a resource to find a quality team. Since typically...

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