[Gen7] Yum or Yuck: EXTREME CAP Edition

Keldeo @ Choice Specs
Ability: Justified
EVs: 4 Atk / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Hasty Nature
IVs: 1 Atk
- Secret Sword
- Hydro Pump
- Icy Wind
- Hidden Power [Electric]

252 SpA Choice Specs Keldeo Secret Sword vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Malaconda: 626-738 (144.2 - 170%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252 SpA Choice Specs Keldeo Secret Sword vs. 252 HP / 4+ Def Blissey: 1574-1854 (220.4 - 259.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO
 

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Keldeo @ Choice Specs
Ability: Justified
EVs: 4 Atk / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Hasty Nature
IVs: 1 Atk
- Secret Sword
- Hydro Pump
- Icy Wind
- Hidden Power [Electric]

252 SpA Choice Specs Keldeo Secret Sword vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Malaconda: 626-738 (144.2 - 170%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252 SpA Choice Specs Keldeo Secret Sword vs. 252 HP / 4+ Def Blissey: 1574-1854 (220.4 - 259.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO
Not sure why you did Hasty (or 4 Atk EVs) but that nature choice actually makes this fail, as Power Whip would KO it on the switch in 87.5% of the time. Even with Timid though, it is not that great, as it is OHKOd on the switch in 25% of the time. Technically, that's greater than the 50% threshhold in the OP, but... its not great.

That said, since technically what was posted fails, and I already had something typed out when you beat me to it, I'm just gonna post my own Blissey/Malaconda stop.

Heracross @ Heracronite
Ability: Guts
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Close Combat
- Pin Missile
- Rock Blast
- Swords Dance

Nuff said.




But in case you want actual calcs....

4 Atk Malaconda Power Whip vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Heracross-Mega: 57-68 (18.9 - 22.5%) -- possible 5HKO
Blissey Seismic Toss vs. 0 HP Heracross-Mega: 100-100 (33.2 - 33.2%) -- guaranteed 4HKO

252+ Atk Heracross-Mega Pin Missile (5 hits) vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Malaconda: 1800-2120 (414.7 - 488.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252+ Atk Heracross-Mega Close Combat vs. 252 HP / 4 Def Blissey: 2324-2736 (325.4 - 383.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO
 
Tomohawk @ Life Orb
Ability: Prankster
EVs: 252 HP / 80 SpA / 176 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Air Slash
- Roost
- Aura Sphere
- Taunt

252+ Atk Heracross-Mega Rock Blast (5 hits) vs. 252 HP / 4 Def Tomohawk: 215-255 (51.9 - 61.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
air slash blows it back

80+ SpA Life Orb Tomohawk Aura Sphere vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Malaconda: 179-213 (41.2 - 49%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
taunt and kill it
80+ SpA Tomohawk Aura Sphere vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Malaconda: 138-164 (31.7 - 37.7%) -- 91.8% chance to 3HKO
4 Atk Malaconda Power Whip vs. 252 HP / 4 Def Tomohawk: 71-84 (17.1 - 20.2%) -- possible 7HKO after Leftovers recovery
4 Atk Malaconda Knock Off (97.5 BP) vs. 252 HP / 4 Def Tomohawk: 57-67 (13.7 - 16.1%) -- possibly the worst move ever
 
Tapu Koko @ Fairium Z
Ability: Electric Surge
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Dazzling Gleam
- Thunderbolt
- Hidden Power [Ice]
- Taunt

252+ Atk Heracross-Mega Rock Blast (5 hits) vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Tapu Koko: 225-270 (80 - 96%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252 SpA Tapu Koko Twinkle Tackle (160 BP) vs. 112 HP / 0 SpD Heracross-Mega: 404-476 (122.7 - 144.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO

80+ SpA Life Orb Tomohawk Aura Sphere vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Tapu Koko: 94-110 (33.4 - 39.1%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
252 SpA Tapu Koko Twinkle Tackle (160 BP) vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Tomohawk: 510-600 (123.1 - 144.9%) -- guaranteed OHKO
 
Jirachi @ Assault Vest
Ability: Serene Grace
EVs: 224 HP / 252 SpA / 32 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Charge Beam
- Psyshock
- Flash Cannon
- Energy Ball

lets do this (keep in mind jirachi WILL get a boost when using charge beam, so be careful)
252+ SpA Jirachi Psyshock vs. 252 HP / 4 Def Tomohawk: 260-308 (62.8 - 74.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
80+ SpA Life Orb Tomohawk Aura Sphere vs. 224 HP / 0 SpD Assault Vest Jirachi: 99-118 (24.9 - 29.7%) -- 100% chance to 4HKO

252 SpA Tapu Koko Thunderbolt vs. 224 HP / 0 SpD Assault Vest Jirachi in Electric Terrain: 118-141 (29.7 - 35.5%) -- 26.7% chance to 3HKO
252+ SpA Jirachi Flash Cannon vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Tapu Koko: 151-178 (53.7 - 63.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
 
Pyroak @ Leftovers
Ability: Battle Armor
EVs: 248 HP / 252 Def / 8 SpD
Bold Nature
- Synthesis
- Lava Plume
- Giga Drain
- Sunny Day

252 SpA Tapu Koko Twinkle Tackle (160 BP) vs. 248 HP / 8 SpD Pyroak: 114-135 (25.7 - 30.4%) -- 1.7% chance to 4HKO after Leftovers recovery
252 SpA Tapu Koko Thunderbolt vs. 248 HP / 8 SpD Pyroak in Electric Terrain: 97-114 (21.8 - 25.7%) -- possible 5HKO after Leftovers recovery
0 SpA Pyroak Giga Drain vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Tapu Koko: 99-117 (35.2 - 41.6%) -- guaranteed 3HKO

0 SpA Pyroak Lava Plume vs. 224 HP / 0 SpD Assault Vest Jirachi in Sun: 168-198 (42.3 - 49.8%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
252 SpA Jirachi Psyshock vs. 248 HP / 252+ Def Pyroak: 76-91 (17.1 - 20.5%) -- possible 7HKO after Leftovers recovery
+3 252 SpA Jirachi Psyshock vs. 248 HP / 252+ Def Pyroak: 190-225 (42.8 - 50.7%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Leftovers recovery
+4 252 SpA Jirachi Psyshock vs. 248 HP / 252+ Def Pyroak: 228-268 (51.4 - 60.4%) -- 91.8% chance to 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
252 SpA Jirachi Charge Beam vs. 248 HP / 8 SpD Pyroak: 25-29 (5.6 - 6.5%) -- possibly the worst move ever

Or 5 Turns to Kill (with Heal) vs 7 turns if it switches into any none Charge Beam move.
 


Heatran @ Choice Specs
Ability: Flash Fire
EVs: 28 HP / 252 SpA / 228 Spe
Timid Nature
- Fire Blast
- Flash Cannon
- Earth Power
- Stone Edge
252 SpA Choice Specs Heatran Fire Blast vs. 244 HP / 204+ SpD Assault Vest Jirachi: 270-320 (67.1 - 79.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252+ SpA Jirachi Psyshock vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Heatran: 57-67 (17.6 - 20.7%) -- possible 5HKO

252 SpA Choice Specs Heatran Fire Blast vs. 248 HP / 8 SpD Pyroak: 292-345 (65.9 - 77.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
0 SpA Pyroak Giga Drain vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Heatran: 18-22 (5.5 - 6.8%) -- possibly the worst move ever
 
Gliscor @ Flyium Z
Ability: Poison Heal
EVs: 252 Atk / 252 Spe / 4 HP
Adamant Nature
- Swords Dance
- Earthquake
- Roost
- Aerial Ace

Gliscor outspeeds both Heatran and Pyroak. It sets up an SD versus Pyroak and crushes it with SSSS. Heatran is outsped and killed by EQ even withou any boosts


+2 252+ Atk Gliscor Supersonic Skystrike (120 BP) vs. 248 HP / 252+ Def Pyroak: 482-570 (108.8 - 128.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO
0 SpA Pyroak Giga Drain vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Gliscor: 99-117 (34 - 40.2%) -- guaranteed 3HKO

+2 252+ Atk Gliscor Earthquake vs. 28 HP / 0 Def Heatran: 1096-1296 (332.1 - 392.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252+ Atk Gliscor Earthquake vs. 28 HP / 0 Def Heatran: 552-652 (167.2 - 197.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO


Edit: Scrubbed, for reasoning see the post below
 
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Gliscor is a yuck as it's cleanly OHKOed by Heatran's Fire Blast on the switch.

252 SpA Choice Specs Heatran Fire Blast vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Gliscor: 342-403 (117.1 - 138%) -- guaranteed OHKO

Back to Pyroak and Heatran...


Latios @ Waterium Z
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Draco Meteor
- Psyshock
- Surf
- Calm Mind

Latios switches into any of Heatran's attacks then OHKOes it with Hydro Vortex. Pyroak barely scratches Latios, so it can set up with Calm Mind until it OHKOes.
252 SpA Choice Specs Heatran Flash Cannon vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Latios: 181-214 (60.5 - 71.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252 SpA Latios Hydro Vortex (175 BP) vs. 28 HP / 0 SpD Heatran: 362-428 (109.6 - 129.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO

0 SpA Pyroak Lava Plume vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Latios: 38-45 (12.7 - 15%) -- possible 7HKO
+2 252 SpA Latios Draco Meteor vs. 248 HP / 8 SpD Pyroak: 459-541 (103.6 - 122.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO
 


Walrein @ Leftovers
Ability: Thick Fat
EVs: 252 HP / 4 SpA / 252 SpD
Calm Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Ice Beam
- Surf
- Protect
- Yawn

woooo
0- Atk Heatran Stone Edge vs. 248 HP / 8 Def Walrein: 128-152 (30.2 - 35.9%) -- guaranteed 4HKO after Leftovers recovery

252 SpA Choice Specs Heatran Flash Cannon vs. 248 HP / 252+ SpD Walrein: 153-180 (36.1 - 42.5%) -- 94.3% chance to 3HKO after Leftovers recovery

0 SpA Walrein Surf vs. 28 HP / 0 SpD Heatran: 176-210 (53.3 - 63.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

(keep in mind it will protect and leftie stall)

0 SpA Walrein Ice Beam vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Latios: 170-204 (56.8 - 68.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

252 SpA Latios Psyshock vs. 248 HP / 8 Def Walrein: 142-168 (33.5 - 39.7%) -- 21.5% chance to 3HKO after Leftovers recovery
+1 252 SpA Latios Draco Meteor vs. 248 HP / 252+ SpD Walrein: 246-289 (58.1 - 68.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
 
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Honchkrow @ Choice Band
Ability: Insomnia
EVs: 252 Atk / 252 SpD / 4 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Pursuit
- Superpower
- Brave Bird
- Sucker Punch

It can switch into an Ice Beam, Yawn or Draco Meteor. Priority Sucker Punch KO's Latios (and for the side reference, Pursuit traps if it has less than 85% HP), while Superpower outspeeds and KO's Walrein.

252 SpA Latios Draco Meteor vs. 0 HP / 252 SpD Honchkrow: 247-292 (72.4 - 85.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252+ Atk Choice Band Honchkrow Sucker Punch vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Latios: 440-518 (147.1 - 173.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO

4 SpA Walrein Ice Beam vs. 0 HP / 252 SpD Honchkrow: 218-258 (63.9 - 75.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252+ Atk Choice Band Honchkrow Superpower vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Walrein: 456-538 (107.5 - 126.8%) -- guaranteed OHKO

Scrubbed, see below
 
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Honchkrow @ Fightinium Z
Ability: Insomnia
EVs: 252 Atk / 84 SpD / 172 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Brave Bird
- Sucker Punch
- Superpower
- Steel Wing

All you had to do was switch Band to Fightinium Z.

252 SpA Latios Draco Meteor vs. 0 HP / 84 SpD Honchkrow: 312-367 (91.4 - 107.6%) -- 43.8% chance to OHKO
252+ Atk Honchkrow Sucker Punch vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Latios: 294-348 (98.3 - 116.3%) -- 87.5% chance to OHKO

0 SpA Walrein Ice Beam vs. 0 HP / 84 SpD Honchkrow: 272-324 (79.7 - 95%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252+ Atk Honchkrow All-Out Pummeling (190 BP) vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Walrein: 482-568 (113.6 - 133.9%) -- guaranteed OHKO
 
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Honchkrow @ Fightinium Z
Ability: Insomnia
EVs: 252 Atk / 84 SpD / 172 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Brave Bird
- Sucker Punch
- Superpower
- Steel Wing

All you had to do was switch Band to Fightinium Z.

252 SpA Latios Draco Meteor vs. 0 HP / 84 SpD Honchkrow: 312-367 (91.4 - 107.6%) -- 43.8% chance to OHKO
252+ Atk Honchkrow Sucker Punch vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Latios: 294-348 (98.3 - 116.3%) -- 87.5% chance to OHKO

0 SpA Walrein Ice Beam vs. 0 HP / 84 SpD Honchkrow: 272-324 (79.7 - 95%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252+ Atk Honchkrow All-Out Pummeling (190 BP) vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Walrein: 482-568 (113.6 - 133.9%) -- guaranteed OHKO
Isn't that technically a yuck since it relies on prediction to win? Latios can still stall out Sucker Punch with Calm Mind. If Honchkrow decides to not sucker, it risks being outright KOed before attacking, and it can't OHKO Latios with Brave Bird (and dies to recoil in the process). It's a shaky matchup, and combined with the 43% chance of just dying to draco on the switch in, that's a really flimsy counter.
 
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Honchkrow @ Assault Vest
Ability: Moxie
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 SpD
Adamant Nature
- Brave Bird
- Sucker Punch
- Heat Wave
- Superpower

Heres honch

252 SpA Latios Draco Meteor vs. 4 HP / 252 SpD Honchkrow: 247-292 (72.2 - 85.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

252+ Atk Honchkrow Superpower vs. 248 HP / 8 Def Walrein: 304-358 (71.8 - 84.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery

0 SpA Walrein Ice Beam vs. 4 HP / 252 SpD Assault Vest Honchkrow: 146-174 (42.6 - 50.8%) -- 2.7% chance to 2HKO

252+ Atk Honchkrow Sucker Punch vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Latios: 294-348 (98.3 - 116.3%) -- 87.5% chance to OHKO

252+ Atk Honchkrow Pursuit vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Latios: 168-200 (56.1 - 66.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
 
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Lets move this along

Honchkrow @ Assault Vest
Ability: Moxie
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 SpD
Adamant Nature
- Brave Bird
- Sucker Punch
- Heat Wave
- Superpower

Heres honch

252 SpA Latios Draco Meteor vs. 4 HP / 252 SpD Honchkrow: 247-292 (72.2 - 85.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

252+ Atk Honchkrow Superpower vs. 248 HP / 8 Def Walrein: 304-358 (71.8 - 84.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery

0 SpA Walrein Ice Beam vs. 4 HP / 252 SpD Assault Vest Honchkrow: 146-174 (42.6 - 50.8%) -- 2.7% chance to 2HKO

252+ Atk Honchkrow Sucker Punch vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Latios: 294-348 (98.3 - 116.3%) -- 87.5% chance to OHKO

252+ Atk Honchkrow Pursuit vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Latios: 168-200 (56.1 - 66.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
How does that solve the problem when you still need prediction in order to win vs Latios, not to mention that you don't even get through Walrein because you already take half switching in, superpower doesn't kill meaning the second ice beam just ko's you. Also you don't even have Pursuit on your set so I don't know why you would add it in your calcs, so yeah.. yuck.
 

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Yeah Honchkrow doesn't work if you need prediction to win- thats not a counter.

Shedinja @ Focus Sash
Ability: Wonder Guard
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Swords Dance
- Shadow Sneak
- Will-O-Wisp
- X-Scissor

This beats Walrein and Latios cleanly, given how they can't touch it.
 
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Hariyama @ Assault Vest
Ability: Guts
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 SpD
Adamant Nature
- Close Combat
- Knock Off
- Bullet Punch
- Fake Out

252+ Atk Hariyama Knock Off vs. 0 HP / 0- Def Shedinja: 408-480 (40800 - 48000%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252+ Atk Shedinja Shadow Sneak vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Hariyama: 84-100 (19.5 - 23.3%) -- possible 5HKO

4 SpA Walrein Surf vs. 0 HP / 252 SpD Assault Vest Hariyama: 67-81 (15.6 - 18.8%) -- possible 6HKO
252+ Atk Hariyama Close Combat vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Walrein: 444-524 (104.7 - 123.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO
 


Hippowdon @ Leftovers
Ability: Sand Stream
EVs: 252 HP / 240 Def / 16 SpD
Impish Nature
- Stealth Rock
- Earthquake
- Slack Off
- Whirlwind

0 Atk Hippowdon Earthquake vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Hariyama: 178-211 (41.4 - 49.1%) -- 19.1% chance to 2HKO after sandstorm damage
252+ Atk Hariyama Close Combat vs. 252 HP / 240+ Def Hippowdon: 132-156 (31.4 - 37.1%) -- guaranteed 4HKO after Leftovers recovery

Sand for Shed.
252+ Atk Shedinja X-Scissor vs. 252 HP / 240+ Def Hippowdon: 73-87 (17.3 - 20.7%) -- possible 7HKO after Leftovers recovery
 
Tapu Bulu @ Choice Band
Ability: Grassy Surge
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Wood Hammer
- Horn Leech
- Stone Edge
- Superpower

252+ Atk Choice Band Tapu
Bulu Wood Hammer vs. 252 HP / 240+ Def Hippowdon in Grassy Terrain: 626-740 (149 - 176.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252+ Atk Hariyama Bullet Punch vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Tapu Bulu: 80-96 (28.4 - 34.1%) -- 99% chance to 4HKO after Grassy Terrain recovery
252+ Atk Choice Band Tapu Bulu Wood Hammer vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Hariyama in Grassy Terrain: 727-856 (169.4 - 199.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO
 

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