NOC Popcorn Mafia 3 Game Thread

[Psypsypsypsypsythe]

wow and now me and clouds are mindmelding. please help me

 

[Thunder~BALLZ]

it's in jest, i always trust myself first & i'll be able to solve things now. this is why we needed 1 flip and why i'm also glad psy shot within the lead wagons instead of doing something chaotic. i'd wager that one of AG's random turbo suggestions is a maf partner, but i'll dig into this later

also i never defend AG like that if i'm mafia ftr, that'd be borderline gamethrowing

like this is low-key just wifom but also the game would be boring without u anyway so like idgaf

 

[Psypsypsypsypsythe]

i would leave but this is a rare opportunity to talk to tbz

 

[a fairy]

why does pulsar break the tie for aura to go if theyre partners

the obvious answer is that pulsar is always town here but unless it’s some wack ass pulsar/ag/zippy/ehmcee/others team and scum just never had an out this eod? And ag just accepted the early out like he did vnv? But really pulsar is town here

 

[a fairy]

But like even then surely pulsar doesn’t show up and mafia let you idle yourself off

 

[Psypsypsypsypsythe]

we definitely need to look again at the discussion surrounding auras wagon. the "this is stagnant so auras probably town" stuff

 

[Texas Cloverleaf]

I'm not sure how I feel about the AG shot and I think it has something to do with the mechanics of the game. On the one hand everyone and their mother is scum reading him, myself included, on the other hand there's minimal counter wagon presence, on the other hand they probably have to be shot with how poisoned the well of opinion is against them, on the other hand what does that imply about the scum team's strategy? I can definitely see worlds where AG offers himself up as a sacrificial lamb for town cred to the scum team, I have some vague hazy memory of him doing that in a game I think we played together on the scum team, but it is very early in the game to allow a team kill and there hasn't been much push to shift his pressure. Which implies that either scum is confident they can muddy the waters enough to sneak AG through a day, or AG is the vengeful and it doesn't matter that much, or they're confident enough they can control the direction of the votes with their current game position, or that AG is town getting scum read like always, or the scum team is largely newer players and they're unsure how to progress their agenda.

this feels important to revisit

so the AG wagon stays stagnant throughout most of the day, later on pressure starts to shift to zippy and later MC, partially driven by myself, need to check who else. More or less confirms that AG does the sacrificial lamb thing, go back and check who pushed for votes on AG in the early game. designated d1 bus? could still implicate pulsar if so, if not their slot looks good. designated bus confident they can control the votes only makes sense in a team that has something like clouds realiti whydon or dusk on it, suggests more likely the newer players but then pulsar and mc switched over to AG which means either they arent scum and the team is what, chad, HH, skippy? or AG is the most experienced scum player and guided them to bus him

 

[Psypsypsypsypsythe]

also my goodness aura im so sorry you rolled mafia again

 

[Texas Cloverleaf]

VOTECOUNT 1.11 (RESTORED EDITION) - PSY
Aura Guardian (5) - Flyhn, Lady Salamence, skippergamez, Psypsypsypsypsythe, pulsar512b
ZippyDoo200 (4) - Clouds, Ehmcee, pulsar512b, Aura Guardian
Ehmcee (3) - Thunder~BALLZ, realiti, Texas Cloverleaf
CaffeineBoost (2) - Duskfall98, master oden
skippergamez (1) - ZippyDoo200
master oden (1) - Celever

pulsar is double counted

 

[Wayan Vistar]

pulsar is double counted

Yeah I'm running back and doing more fixing.. to figure out if someone else voted there or if we just have 4 non-voters

 

[Psypsypsypsypsythe]

hydro chad and whydon never voted

 

[Texas Cloverleaf]

in worlds where mc and pulsar are scum partners and the team prefers zippy out of the game b/c aura is easy bait and LS is sitting on the other wagon this world makes sense

ah damn fell into the narrative and convinced myself

 

[Psypsypsypsypsythe]

i kinda buy into the theory of aura being intended to die here but then its like. why go so out of your way? even hard pushing him with the intention to get credit can still cast an unwanted spotlight on you

 

[Psypsypsypsypsythe]

especially cause like why does aura act like that at eod when he was going to live? letting zippy take the hit there feels ideal with it getting rid of town and putting the gun on an unreliable player

 

[Psypsypsypsypsythe]

if hes town. but if hes scum then why sacrifice yourself over zippy who has done way less than aura?

 

[HydrogenHydreigon]

hi im here for like a min

 

[HydrogenHydreigon]

ok bye class might dip in occassionaly but bye

 

[realiti]

why does pulsar break the tie for aura to go if theyre partners

I kinda agree ngl

 

[realiti]

auras random bouncing around onto whydon and caff makes me initially suspect that he was trying to antispew them but ill sit on that

I agree on whydon too

 

[HydrogenHydreigon]

Dl when

 

[Texas Cloverleaf]

VOTECOUNT 1.9 - PSY
ZippyDoo200 (6) - Aura Guardian, Clouds, Texas Cloverleaf, Ehmcee, pulsar512b, Psypsypsypsypsythe
Aura Guardian (4) - Flyhn, Lady Salamence, skippergamez
CaffeineBoost (2) - Duskfall98, master oden
Ehmcee (2) - Thunder~BALLZ, realiti
skippergamez (1) - ZippyDoo200
master oden (1) - Celever

thing with this is i have zippy and mc as scum and pulsar on the edge so why are ehmcee and pulsar the b2b votes to push zippy ahead of ag

given this context AG is first on the zippy wagon, scum!clouds being second on is possible but suspect, then I'm third on here so this is probably scum/town/town, then MC and pulsar jump on back to back to push ahead of AG after which doesnt make any sense in either world where clouds and pulsar are partnered or MC and pulsar are partnered and also doesnt make sense in worlds where clouds and MC are partnered so this suggests that either it is s/s AG clouds and mc/pulsar are both town jumping on a live wagon or zippy was a purely town wagon outside of AG or only MC is scum and pulsar/clouds are both town where MC jumped on zippy to try and save AG

 

[a fairy]

Dl when

r u serious

 

[a fairy]

22 minutes ago

 

[HydrogenHydreigon]

Oh

 

[Wayan Vistar]

VOTECOUNT 1.12 (FINAL EDITION)
Aura Guardian (5) - Flyhn, Lady Salamence, skippergamez, Psypsypsypsypsythe, pulsar512b
ZippyDoo200 (3) - Clouds, Ehmcee, Aura Guardian
Ehmcee (3) - Thunder~BALLZ, realiti, Texas Cloverleaf
CaffeineBoost (2) - Duskfall98, master oden
skippergamez (1) - ZippyDoo200
master oden (1) - Celever
Not Voting (4) HydrogenHydreigon, ChadMD, CaffeineBoost, Whydon

There we go. Already seen talks of AG being bussed here so we look into LS/Skipper/Pulsar.... maybe also the Zippy/MC wagons, but AG himself was flipping between those two by the end so who knows

I'm of the school that believes scum like spreading out their votes, so I'll be operating off the assumption each wagon has at least 1 scum within it. If I read back and see the CB wagon was also legitimately gaining traction at one point I'll probably look at that as well