Information about regular Kyogre is mentioned in Other Options for Primal Kyogre's analysis on the dex site and it clarifies that regular Kyogre is hard to justify. This goes to the same for Groudon.I know I'm not on the right thread but I don't see other places to post. It's just to point out that there is only one pokemon missing in the Reservation List: basic Kyogre (which is a C Rank in the VRs).
The parallel between these two mons is not valid: regular Groudon is a D rank (having no niche and totally outclassed by the other ubers), nothing to do with regular Kyogre which is apparently a minimum viable since it's middle C rank (otherwise they would be at the same level). So, this totally justifies a scarf/specs moveset in its analysis (as in ORAS), which is much more than just a mention in Other Options.Information about regular Kyogre is mentioned in Other Options for Primal Kyogre's analysis on the dex site and it clarifies that regular Kyogre is hard to justify. This goes to the same for Groudon.
What I meant by mentioning Groudon is that Groudon too has its base forme mentioned in the analysis but is considered unviable similarly to regular Kyogre forme mentioned in Primal Kyogre dex page.The parallel between these two mons is not valid: regular Groudon is a D rank (having no niche and totally outclassed by the other ubers), nothing to do with regular Kyogre which is apparently a minimum viable since it's middle C rank (otherwise they would be at the same level). So, this totally justifies a scarf moveset in its analysis (as in ORAS), which is much more than just a mention in Other Options.
Determining whether Choice Scarf Kyogre deserves its own set or not isn't in my domain. Try talking to QC team (preferably Nayrz).https://www.smogon.com/dex/sm/pokemon/kyogre/ said:
- A more niche option is to forgo Blue Orb and run a Choice Scarf or Choice Specs set with Water Spout. However, both of these sets are threatened by Primal Groudon and Primal Kyogre, as they remove its rain. Kyogre's low Speed tier also means that it's easily weakened or revenge killed by faster Pokemon that are able to weaken its Water Spout.
SubmittedSD + Rocks Groudon should be taken out of oo since it’s now the main set