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Most Generation PRNG Help / Information
- Thread starter mingot
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Okay, I have finally obtained my ID and SID in my heart gold game (11172 and 37712 respectively). I'm a bit confused as to how exactly I would RNG for a shiny rayquaza, unless everything works like it did in DPPt. Tell me if this is right:
1. I go to 4th generation time finder, go to the Capture tab, and select method K, right?
2. I put in ID/SID, search for adamant shiny frame. I find my target frame, 247 (seed 3A0901FE). I hit generate more times.
3. I adjust the year to 2013 so that the delay is 497, as that seems to be my average. 2013 12/26 9:02:00. Ok.
4. I select HGSS and input that no roamers are present (I killed them for now, they can respawn when I'm done RNGing :P).
5. I hit generate a little lower, and scroll down to my corresponding thing I have to hit. Now I'm a bit confused here; I'm assuming these 10 Elm responses are the ones I have to get in order to verify I've hit my seed? They're like coin flips in DPPt, right?
6. If I've hit my seed, how do I advance the RNG succesfully and consistently? I read in the second post of this thread that calling Elm advances the RNG by 1. So my ten calls that I did to check my seed have already advanced it by ten. Besides, how do I figure out how many RNG advances I need? My frame is 247. Is it just 247 - roamers (0) - monster frame (no idea what this is for rayquaza, but I think it's 1).
Yeah, I'd like to know if all this is right before I begin painfully attempting to hit my seed...
1. I go to 4th generation time finder, go to the Capture tab, and select method K, right?
2. I put in ID/SID, search for adamant shiny frame. I find my target frame, 247 (seed 3A0901FE). I hit generate more times.
3. I adjust the year to 2013 so that the delay is 497, as that seems to be my average. 2013 12/26 9:02:00. Ok.
4. I select HGSS and input that no roamers are present (I killed them for now, they can respawn when I'm done RNGing :P).
5. I hit generate a little lower, and scroll down to my corresponding thing I have to hit. Now I'm a bit confused here; I'm assuming these 10 Elm responses are the ones I have to get in order to verify I've hit my seed? They're like coin flips in DPPt, right?
6. If I've hit my seed, how do I advance the RNG succesfully and consistently? I read in the second post of this thread that calling Elm advances the RNG by 1. So my ten calls that I did to check my seed have already advanced it by ten. Besides, how do I figure out how many RNG advances I need? My frame is 247. Is it just 247 - roamers (0) - monster frame (no idea what this is for rayquaza, but I think it's 1).
Yeah, I'd like to know if all this is right before I begin painfully attempting to hit my seed...
in HG/SS, does walking in and out of a door advance the rng in some places?
so i keep trying to hit my target time which is 16:40:15, but i either get 14 seconds with 491-495 delay or i get 15 seconds with 500-513 delay. anyone know how to fix this?
You can change the year by one to make the delay odd.
You can use Pikatimer to help you, add one more second to the first timer, because there is a higher likely hood that you'll get below 500 delay on HGSS, at least there is for me. You'll get to second 15 and if you are still having trouble you can just look for another time to hit that seed.
Will the same time and date hit the same seed, though?
So your target frame is 247. Rayquaza's monster frame is 1. Say you verify your seed by calling Elm 10x, and you hit your seed. Then, you should advance the frame 236 times, which should put you on frame 246 when you're done. When you press A on Rayquaza, that puts it on the target frame.
There are two ways (that i know of) of advancing the frame. You can carry on calling Elm for the 236 times, or use the radio. By switching to and then detuning the bottom right radio station. It must not be on Buena's password though, or it will not work.
Good luck with your Rayquaza!
Ah, thanks so much. Omega donut says that the radio advances it 14-18 times, which sounds inconsistent, so I'm not going to do that. Calling youngster joey advances it by 2 though, so couldn't I just call him 118 times instead of elm 236 times?
Why predict, if calling Elm will let you know exactly the frame you're on at a given moment?
Get confused when I check the first page.
What is actually Raikou's starting frame, 1 or 5 (North America HG Cart)?
Yeah, I know that almost everyone had probably RNGed it, but I just get back to RNG after a 3-week hiatus due to final exam.
What is actually Raikou's starting frame, 1 or 5 (North America HG Cart)?
Yeah, I know that almost everyone had probably RNGed it, but I just get back to RNG after a 3-week hiatus due to final exam.
in the north American game its starting frame is 1
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Show Advances Location
Pokemon Music 1 frame, sometimes none - inconsistent Upper-left
Pokemon Talk 14-18 frames, inconsistent Upper-right
That Town, These People 3 frames, inconsistent Lower-left
Buena's Password none Lower-right
Trainer Profiles 3 frames, inconsistent Lower-left
Pokemon Search Party 1 frame Lower-right
Silver Drama 1 frame Lower-rightYeah i forgot about that...as long as Joey isnt seeking a battle when you call him that works too. However, you can consistently advance the frame by one with the radio if you tune/detune Search Party/Silver Drama. I find this faster than any using phone calls.
Ohh I think I just realized something...So if I tune/detune Pokemon Talk loads of times, can I then call Elm to see what frame I'm on? Would I have to search through hsi replies manually and look for the succession of replies that match?
I know that there are guys who do that. But for breeding, would that be necessary? I mean, I always aim for frame 13-18. You can just use Elm calls to advance the frame AND to know your current frame, at the same time. Calling him 10-15 times is not a problem, you know?
Yes of course, I was thinking for wild pokes, cos sometimes the only good seeds are on reeeeeeally high frames. Still sounds tough though, it would be great if there were a 'Search Elm' function for verifying your frame as well as your seed...
You want the one reading 'frame' for Method K. The one reading 'actual' is the frame for Method 1.
Thanks a lot!
Isn't there?
Generate your seed in the main window with Elm responses showing, right-click any of the results, and click Search Elm Responses.mingot said:
Ohhhh omg thank you I never realised it did that. Wow this is exactly what I needed, now it's possible for me to reach high frames!